EU Elections

[Dan2nd]

there is a difference between being patriotic and being racist. they might have a few right policies but they are far from the full package

Don't get me wrong but how did you even get onto the racist subject? You said their logo makes you feel sick and then decided to defend your views by bringing up the racist card... their logo is in no way racist to me it just looks like the letters BNP with the union jack flag patterned within the letters... if thats racist I'd hate to hear what you have to say about my car since that has a union jack on the roof as I'm very patriotic.

I'd personally hate to see the BNP get into power within the EU or the UK I think that would be the next step towards the government becoming a 'Hitler' like regime, but at the same time would like a party in there who'd stand up for Britain and not just role over.

[UKIP]

saying only white people can join the bnp is racist lol.

I'm sure that isn't their policy, find it is and your right but from what I have read on their website, it doesn't mention that.

The BNP are probably the worst people you could ever want in power.

They deny the holocaust, they want to use our tax money to pay our own citizens to move to other countries because of their skin colour. They deny that black or asians or mixed racial people can ever be British.

So many things I hate about the BNP. They just spread hate throughout the country. Nick Griffin even said that he felt sorry for mixed race people because they are 'a direct product of multiculturalism.'

And I won't count as british in this country cause my Grandad is foreign...

I'd have to disagree that many people like their ideas.

Denying the holocaust, i'm afraid that is an opinion just like I could deny 9/11 was an act of terrorism and so forth. I believe it happend of course, but trying to send people to jail for not believing in the holocaust is, as per usual, us being at Israels feet while they commit terrible crimes against the Palestinians. Freedom of speech to deny whatever you want, that is democracy.

As for the British issue, well I am sort of in agreement with them, but I am unsure myself where to draw the line. If I went and moved to China, would you call me Chinese? - you wouldn't and I believe the same applies here.

That's wrong, if you were give them a detailed analysis of exactly what policies the BNP wanted to implement and what they stood for I doubt they would have very much support whatsoever. I have no idea how you managed to find that the majority of people agree with BNP ideas because they most certainly do not.

Actually tightend immigration, the EU and crime are the BNP's strong points and many agree with them. If you ask someone should our borders be closed, the likelyhood is that they will say yes. If you ask someone should we leave the EU the likelyhood is that they will say yes. If you ask someone should murderers be executed, the likelyhood is that people will agree with it.

As I have said before, i'm not a suppoter of the BNP as I believe some of the party is indeed racist and I don't agree with a lot of their policies, particulary re-nationalisation which would cripple our economy. However a lot of people agree with them out there and if the main parties don't start getting back to the issues that people want to discuss/change then support for the BNP will grow from disappointed Labour supporters.

As for Dans comment I totally agree, the BNP logo isn't racist at all. I also agree so strongly on your comment of 'we need a government that just won't roll over.'

[Immenseman]

Actually tightend immigration, the EU and crime are the BNP's strong points and many agree with them. If you ask someone should our borders be closed, the likelyhood is that they will say yes. If you ask someone should we leave the EU the likelyhood is that they will say yes. If you ask someone should murderers be executed, the likelyhood is that people will agree with it.

I'd like to know where you got that from too. Sure, some people would agree with it. However, I'm pretty sure you'd find the majority don't agree with the death penalty to be re-introduced.

[UKIP]

I'd like to know where you got that from too. Sure, some people would agree with it. However, I'm pretty sure you'd find the majority don't agree with the death penalty to be re-introduced.

Basically from the people I know/have heard speak on the subject, my family believe that if someone takes someone elses life then they forfeit their own. I have heard family friends talk about it, even people who we hardly speak to. Also in my english class out of about 25 students, i'd say only 3 disagreed with it, and we'd gone through the whole 'what if innocents were executed' etc.

If someone murdered a friend/family members of mine, you could count on it i'd want them to face justice, at least life in prison or preferrabley the death penalty, both of which don't happen anymore as we seem to care more for the criminals rights rather than the victims.

[alexxxxx]

Denying the holocaust, i'm afraid that is an opinion just like I could deny 9/11 was an act of terrorism and so forth. I believe it happend of course, but trying to send people to jail for not believing in the holocaust is, as per usual, us being at Israels feet while they commit terrible crimes against the Palestinians. Freedom of speech to deny whatever you want, that is democracy.

As for the British issue, well I am sort of in agreement with them, but I am unsure myself where to draw the line. If I went and moved to China, would you call me Chinese? - you wouldn't and I believe the same applies here.

No, I wouldn't call myself chinese, but i'd call my children chinese if they were born there. If I moved to south africa, my children would be south african, if i moved to Brazil they would be brazillian. Calling a Black person who's parents were born here (or not even) a racial foreigner is a form of discrimination. That kind of thinking was behind the Nuremberg laws.

There are aload of other things the BNP have said/done.

And only white people are permitted in the BNP. It's a rule.

[UKIP]

No, I wouldn't call myself chinese, but i'd call my children chinese if they were born there. If I moved to south africa, my children would be south african, if i moved to Brazil they would be brazillian. Calling a Black person who's parents were born here (or not even) a racial foreigner is a form of discrimination. That kind of thinking was behind the Nuremberg laws.

There are aload of other things the BNP have said/done.

And only white people are permitted in the BNP. It's a rule.

There you go then, my point exactly. The children are I believe of that country, but not entirely that nationality. As I said before, I don't agree with all of their policy, just the basics of it.

Apparently it is not officially a rule.

[alexxxxx]

There you go then, my point exactly. The children are I believe of that country, but not entirely that nationality. As I said before, I don't agree with all of their policy, just the basics of it.

Apparently it is not officially a rule.

No, they would be south african or chinese. Nationally. You should never blend race and nationality together. It's offensive to many people and when you blur the lines and start giving people of different races different rights (like the nazis and the BNP) you get problems.

"SECTION 2: MEMBERSHIP
1) The British National Party represents the collective National, Environmental, Political, Racial, Folkish, Social, Cultural, Religious and Economic interests of the indigenous Anglo-Saxon, Celtic and Norse folk communities of Britain and those we regard as closely related and ethnically assimilated or assimilable aboriginal members of the European race also resident in Britain. Membership of the BNP is strictly defined within the terms of, and our members also self define themselves within, the legal ambit of a defined ‘racial group’ this being ‘Indigenous Caucasian’ and defined ‘ethnic groups’ emanating from that Race as specified in law in the House of Lords case of Mandla V Dowell Lee (1983) 1 ALL ER 1062, HL.

2) The indigenous British ethnic groups deriving from the class of ‘Indigenous Caucasian’ consist of members of: i) The Anglo-Saxon Folk Community; ii) The Celtic Scottish Folk Community; iii) The Scots-Northern Irish Folk Community; iv) The Celtic Welsh Folk Community; v) The Celtic Irish Folk Community; vi) The Celtic Cornish Folk Community; vii) The Anglo-Saxon-Celtic Folk Community; viii) The Celtic-Norse Folk Community; ix) The Anglo-Saxon-Norse Folk Community; x) The Anglo-Saxon-Indigenous European Folk Community; xi) Members of these ethnic groups who reside either within or outside Europe but ethnically derive from them.

Seems quite like a rule to me.

[clueless]

Don't get me wrong but how did you even get onto the racist subject? You said their logo makes you feel sick and then decided to defend your views by bringing up the racist card... their logo is in no way racist to me it just looks like the letters BNP with the union jack flag patterned within the letters... if thats racist I'd hate to hear what you have to say about my car since that has a union jack on the roof as I'm very patriotic.

Im just saying everything about what they stand for I disagree with.
So even the site of their flag, hearing their name or seeing a member of them on the news just makes me sick

I'm sure that isn't their policy, find it is and your right but from what I have read on their website, it doesn't mention that.

The British National Party (BNP) is a far-right and whites-only[14][15][16] political party in the United Kingdom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party

and a BNP member said it on the news the other day

[Immenseman]

Basically from the people I know/have heard speak on the subject, my family believe that if someone takes someone elses life then they forfeit their own. I have heard family friends talk about it, even people who we hardly speak to. Also in my english class out of about 25 students, i'd say only 3 disagreed with it, and we'd gone through the whole 'what if innocents were executed' etc.

If someone murdered a friend/family members of mine, you could count on it i'd want them to face justice, at least life in prison or preferrabley the death penalty, both of which don't happen anymore as we seem to care more for the criminals rights rather than the victims.

I guarantee that if it was a question given to everyone in England it wouldn't be like 12 out of 100 people that disagreed with it like your "statistic" suggests.

[clueless]

lots of people who say they agree with capitial punishment just know the face value views on it but when they come to hear the counter arguments to it they realise it doesnt work. thats happened in my experience anyway and then they are like 'oh' afterwards and dont agree with it after all!