UKIP Exposed!

[zaphod9642]

bnp get elected we go into civil war i think LOL also we cant survive without the EU's relationship we will go down

i think we just need to vote raving ooney party! their there for a laff they have like no polocies

[-:Undertaker:-]

bnp get elected we go into civil war i think LOL also we cant survive without the EU's relationship we will go down

i think we just need to vote raving ooney party! their there for a laff they have like no polocies

Is that why when we joined the European Exchange Rate Mechanism in 1990 on the advice of the European Union, the Pound Sterling nearly collapsed and luckily we withdrew just in time to save our currency and country from financial meltdown?

Is that why we pay £40 million a day to the European Union yet the European Union has billions upon billions of taxpayer money go missing from its books/records every year and no one seems to know where the money has gone?

Is that why when we joined the proto-type EU, our agriculture collapsed overnight because British products could not compete with low prices from across Europe?

Is that why French and British fishermen strongly disagree with EU regulations and policy on fishing and have protested time and time again that it is putting them out of business? - yet the EU seem to think they know better than the fisherman about the topic of fishing.

[zaphod9642]

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two of our greatest Prime Ministers, Winston Churchill and Margaret Thatcher

what a load of crap.
winston chichill fair enough but margaret ******* thatcher u need help if you think closing all the coal mining industry was good. she was rubbish!

anyway sorry for going off topic i just rly hate her


we wont survive without the EU's help btw

[omgDAN!]

How hypocritical of you and i'll explain why.

You state UKIP had people involved in fraud and so forth in the party, I said this earlier to. However unlike the main partys Nigel Farage acted quickly and at that time back in 2004 and so on to punish those who were involved in fraud. Due to Proportional Representation UKIP were powerless to call bi-elections for these MEP's as you vote for the candidate and not the party.

All that in mind, compare to the main three, one of whom, Labour, you say you would vote for in an election. You have MP's clamining on non-existent mortages, ministers resigning due to being exposed as the thieves they are and a Chancellor who has the nerve to increase taxes every year in the middle of a recession, hitting already hard hit families despite fiddling his expenses.

You provide some hard-hitting evidence that UKIP is racist, because I know and you know that really your just spewing this utter rubbish out as the left usually do. If you want a dangerous party, take a look at some of the socialist parties who are running in the elections, by far more dangerous to this country with their idealogy than the right is as the right actually has a lot of support in England and is infact the political mindset of the people of this country.

UKIP has black, asian etc. candidates standing for election so your argument is again, worth nothing. You only say they are racist, as you are from the left of politics, the political correct side of politics - the same people who branded Michael Howard in 2005 a racist because he dared to launch the Conservative Election Campaign on the issue of immigration.

It is as simple as leaving the EU and controlling our own borders because that is what the rest of the world seem to do pretty well. To speak of common sense in this country now sees you being labelled a racist by the politically correct and enough is enough - people have had enough of it!

How can you tell me that UKIP and the Conservatives could manage law when this government has totally lost control of what is right and what is wrong, with murderers and rapists being sent to 'life' in prision which is 5 years, then they are let out yet again to commit more crime.

How can you say that UKIP and the Conservatives would have no idea how to run the economy when in 1979 Margaret Thatcher was elected because of the failures of the James Callaghan Labour government which nearly saw this country being taken over by the military as things got so bad, and in her years in office saw the United Kingdom go from a collapsing economy to one of the fastest growing and prosperous economies in the world. To add on; Labour decided to sell a large portion of our gold stocks back in around 2000 while they were at a 25 year low and not only that, but Gordon Brown told international gold markets one week before he was planning to sell that he was due to sell, meaning the price of gold plummetted further. Furthermore, this Labour government has left the country sinking in debt because of absurd spending plans and no concept of simple idea that you spend what you have, not what you don't have.

How can you say UKIP could not run parliament when we've seen Labour, Conservatives and Liberal Democrats all fiddling expenses, signing away soverign power to the European Union and only noticed their "terrible mistake" of fiddling expenses after they were caught by the Daily Telegraph.

The advertisement campaign is fine, the views of Sir Winston Churchill were far more similar to UKIP than they are to the Conservative Party of today. A vote for UKIP is saying NO to unlimited immigration, NO to £40 million a day and NO to being governed by unelected eurocrats in Brussels.

Couldn't be arsed reading that (some of us have better things to do), but by reading the last 2 paragraphs then I find your whole view very funny. UKIP have fiddled their expenses, we have seen UKIP MEPs on TV at the other side of the world when they are being payed to be in Parliament. But anyway, they wont get power in my constituency (I don't live in an area full of brainless, mindwashed fascists).

[alexxxxx]

ukip couldn't run parliament because they are a 1-issue party (even the BNP have more issues than UKIP), 25% of their MEPs were kicked out or left or were imprisoned and their average attendance is only 60%. They don't even do their voters wishes in parliament. They are useless. NO2EU have at least said they won't waste money by going!

[omgDAN!]

ukip couldn't run parliament because they are a 1-issue party (even the BNP have more issues than UKIP), 25% of their MEPs were kicked out or left or were imprisoned and their average attendance is only 60%. They don't even do their voters wishes in parliament. They are useless. NO2EU have at least said they won't waste money by going!

Exactly. What's the point in sharing views with someone, if the person you elect to represent them doesn't even go to parliament. It's like employing someone and they don't even turn up for work but you still pay them.

[alexxxxx]

oh and undertaker, our currency collapsed in price because the tories overvalued it and it was the target of speculators, not because of it... If we stayed on it, we probably would be using the euro right now.

[-:Undertaker:-]

what a load of crap.
winston chichill fair enough but margaret ******* thatcher u need help if you think closing all the coal mining industry was good. she was rubbish!

anyway sorry for going off topic i just rly hate her


we wont survive without the EU's help btw

Excuse me, you have just totally ignored what I said on the European Union and cannot back up your claim that we need the EU despite me posting numerous examples of why we don't need the EU.

As for the coal industry, somewhere along the line your maths teacher, or your common sense must of collapsed as i'm afraid; when something is not making money and is having to be subsidised by the taxpayer while the government is in debt it needs to be closed for the survival of the country, why should the rest of the country pay higher and higher taxes to keep a industry alive which was of no use, and was infact a burden on this country?

Couldn't be arsed reading that (some of us have better things to do), but by reading the last 2 paragraphs then I find your whole view very funny. UKIP have fiddled their expenses, we have seen UKIP MEPs on TV at the other side of the world when they are being payed to be in Parliament. But anyway, they wont get power in my constituency (I don't live in an area full of brainless, mindwashed fascists).

If you find my view funny then challenge it, instead of ducking it. I have said before, UKIP MEP's who were found to be involved in fraud were expelled from the party back in around 2004 and Nigel Farage has explained this many time. UKIP has not been involved in the expenses scandel and the issue of being paid for being a MEP is common sense, they are not going to do it for free are they?

UKIP has a much cleaner record than that of Labour, Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats and has not been involved in the recent expense scandel.

How dare you call UKIP facists, the BNP may tend to lean to facism UKIP are exactly the same values as what Winston Churchill and Maraget Thatcher held, was Churchill a facist?

You explain to me how UKIP are facists, go on. The left always name the right side of politics facists as they think it will provoke a fear of Nazism when UKIP are nothing like the Nazi Party. You are keen to throw out claims such as your claim that UKIP are facists yet you have not at all backed it up and you refuses even more so, to disprove/challenge what I wrote above yet you dismiss my view as very funny, tell me why you disagree and then maybe it'll actually show that you maybe know what you are talking about.

oh and undertaker, our currency collapsed in price because the tories overvalued it and it was the target of speculators, not because of it... If we stayed on it, we probably would be using the euro right now.

Indeed the tories took us into it and that is why I believe the Conservative Party needs to sort out the issue of the EU if it is ever to offer a real change and what people want. They took us out yes, and a good move because the people of this country do not want European Union and do not want to be using the Euro as our currency. The damage was already done though and that is why the EU issue needs to be sorted once and for all in the Conservative Party.

[Frodo13.]

Is that why when we joined the European Exchange Rate Mechanism in 1990 on the advice of the European Union, the Pound Sterling nearly collapsed and luckily we withdrew just in time to save our currency and country from financial meltdown?

Withdrawing the Pound from the ERM wasn't a matter of choise. Major was forced to withdraw it because he wasn't competant enough to keep it above it's lower limit. On Black Wednesday, Major kept on rising the interest rates in order to prop the pound up, but it just put the UK into a recession, which led to businesses collapsing and the housing market crash. On one single day, Major's government lost us £3.4 billion. The pound took another 4/5 years to reach the value it had before Black Wednesday. So, withdrawing from the ERM saved our country? Hardly, it almost destroyed it.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Withdrawing the Pound from the ERM wasn't a matter of choise. Major was forced to withdraw it because he wasn't competant enough to keep it above it's lower limit. On Black Wednesday, Major kept on rising the interest rates in order to prop the pound up, but it just put the UK into a recession, which led to businesses collapsing and the housing market crash. On one single day, Major's government lost us £3.4 billion. The pound took another 4/5 years to reach the value it had before Black Wednesday. So, withdrawing from the ERM saved our country? Hardly, it almost destroyed it.

The currency before the ERM was fine, but when we joined the ERM the currency became unstable and we had to withdraw so indeed, it did save the currency from becoming void. I believe it was a terrible decision to join and the only good thing that came out of it was that it stalled european intergration.

Other nations such as Italy and Ireland also suffered on Black Wednesday and according to Wikipedia, the United Kingdom did well compared to other nations on that day.