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    Quote Originally Posted by Technologic View Post
    Those comments probably came from people like you....
    you're saying that just because he had a different opinion from you? i find that a bit unfair... if that's what he thinks about this topic then that's what he thinks. you cannot decide if its bad or not, as many other people who opposed him said, he had good points about this, it doesnt make him against gays in anyway, which is basically what you are implying(he's against gays)

    *he said so himself that he isn't against gays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Technologic View Post
    Omg no way. We're completely different species to the straights, therefore we should be referred to as such. Y'know, you HAVE to be straight to be able to care for somebody, it's not like a gay person would know how to take care of children.
    Then why on earth do the MAJORITY of homosexuals act as though they're a different species to straight people? With their whole gay pride etc, it's nothing to be proud of, it's what you are not as though you're doing something so great it needs to be praised. No offence just how I see it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kieeran View Post
    that was pathetic


    At the end of the day to have children you need to have straight sexual intercourse. if you choose not to then obviously you chosen not to have children
    Yes you have to have sexual intercourse to have a child, we're talking about being able to care for one and you don't need to have sex to care for one :S Are you to say that someone shouldn't care for your child if they haven't had straight sex!?? Or what about the people that can't actually have any children, do they not deserve them? Then what would happen to orphans and children up for adoption if these people don't deserve them and neither do same sex parents?:S

    I can see where you are coming from Kieran, if only you could be a little less forceful in your argument then maybe you could get somewhere. I couldn't imagine how it would feel being adopted, then brought up with the same sex mother/father then on top of that having to go through the "embarassement" at school. It's just not fair on the children and at the end of the day it's the child that counts, not whoever is bringing them up. I think it's important for a child to have a mother and a father, a girl put into a family with two males are especially going to feel out of place. They're going to need to talk about girls troubles and other things that you wouldn't tend to talk about with your father. In saying that, it's just the same as having one parent. I know of a girl who lives with only her dad due to her mums death and they get on great, probably because she's older and knows all the girl bizz already.
    In my family it's just myself, mum and my brother. He doesn't find it any different :S He doesn't get bullied for not having a father figure and just two girls, what's the difference really??? You can't win at school, you could get bullied regardless of your parents, if the fathers/mothers are going to be there for their kids in times like this then I see no harm in it.

    i would say no to any male (str8 or not) havin kids coz they're all useless :@:@:@ nah jk dnt hurt me, to confirm I think it's fine for homosexuals to adopt :eusa_danc


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    no they shouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buttons View Post
    Then why on earth do the MAJORITY of homosexuals act as though they're a different species to straight people? With their whole gay pride etc, it's nothing to be proud of, it's what you are not as though you're doing something so great it needs to be praised. No offence just how I see it.

    Yes you have to have sexual intercourse to have a child, we're talking about being able to care for one and you don't need to have sex to care for one :S Are you to say that someone shouldn't care for your child if they haven't had straight sex!?? Or what about the people that can't actually have any children, do they not deserve them? Then what would happen to orphans and children up for adoption if these people don't deserve them and neither do same sex parents?:S

    I can see where you are coming from Kieran, if only you could be a little less forceful in your argument then maybe you could get somewhere. I couldn't imagine how it would feel being adopted, then brought up with the same sex mother/father then on top of that having to go through the "embarassement" at school. It's just not fair on the children and at the end of the day it's the child that counts, not whoever is bringing them up. I think it's important for a child to have a mother and a father, a girl put into a family with two males are especially going to feel out of place. They're going to need to talk about girls troubles and other things that you wouldn't tend to talk about with your father. In saying that, it's just the same as having one parent. I know of a girl who lives with only her dad due to her mums death and they get on great, probably because she's older and knows all the girl bizz already.
    In my family it's just myself, mum and my brother. He doesn't find it any different :S He doesn't get bullied for not having a father figure and just two girls, what's the difference really??? You can't win at school, you could get bullied regardless of your parents, if the fathers/mothers are going to be there for their kids in times like this then I see no harm in it.

    i would say no to any male (str8 or not) havin kids coz they're all useless :@:@:@ nah jk dnt hurt me, to confirm I think it's fine for homosexuals to adopt :eusa_danc
    Just to clarify, gay people who go out of their way to make it obvious really annoys me. Gay Pride annoys me too, they just alienate being gay and it's stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Technologic View Post
    Those comments probably came from people like you....
    techno they didnt actually but you know what, theres no need to take it to a personal level. if i wanted to i couldve but im not going to stoop to your level.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lost View Post
    you're saying that just because he had a different opinion from you? i find that a bit unfair... if that's what he thinks about this topic then that's what he thinks. you cannot decide if its bad or not, as many other people who opposed him said, he had good points about this, it doesnt make him against gays in anyway, he said so himself, which is basically what you are implying.
    Thanks ^ and this is a 'discuss anything' thread where this topic has become a debate and as youve read tech i am against it but because your homosexual i cant have an opinion can i

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    My view can be quickly summed up as;

    parents > no parents.

    Asumming they are good parents its unfair on the child to deprive them of a loving family simply because of society's homophobic commuity.

    > For those saying its not normal? how on earth is no parents at all any more normal?

    > For those of you saying gay parents will make the child gay, yea what great logic you use, that explains why all straight couples have straight children... *cough* :rolleyes:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost View Post
    Don't get me wrong I have nothing against homosexuals, and they might be just as good parents as a mum and dad! However, do you think it's really fair on the children?

    If you think about the child, how they are gonna go through school with everyone knowing that he/she only has 2 dads/ 2 mums? I know this kid who used to be at my school and he left because he was bullied constantley because everyone found out he had 2 mothers., I know, kids can be really cruel.

    If you asked a bunch of children if they would prefer a mum and dad to two dads, how many of them do you think would say 'yes'?

    And also, some children want annominity, having parents that are both the same gender doesn't really help.

    If you ask me, I think they shouldn't. I prefer the whole "norm" thing with one mother and one father, it makes things way easier for the childrens life. I think it's really selfish for gay people to adopt children, because at the end of the day they're only thinking about themselves and not the child.


    What do you think?
    Gay people are becoming more and more accepted in society and children are becoming more aware of this.

    Why should everyone know that someone has two parents of the same sex? Nobody will know unless they tell everyone.

    I think that saying gay people are selfish for adopting is wrong. They want the best life for the child and they think they can provide that and I see no reason why they shouldn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kieeran View Post
    i think its wrongnot only is it completely out of nature for the child but when u r gay u know ur not gna be able to have kids end of
    They can get a surrogate mother to have the child for them.

    I find the following reply really offensive:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jewish Bear View Post
    Absolutely not, they will turn the child gay for sure and we don't need more gays in this society, don't take that the wrong way I have nothing against gays being gay, but do it away from children and the public view.
    What's the problem with being gay? I don't understand why gay people can't go out in public and why there doesn't need to be gay people in society. I don't see how having two parents of the same sex can turn someone gay either

    All gays seem to go on about is gay rights, they have exactly the same rights as us, and we've even given them "marriage" (el oh el), they need to shut up (just like feminists) about rights and get back to being idiots in their own home.
    People don't go on about gay rights as much any more, they just don't like that some people treat them unfairly by saying they shouldn't be able to have a union or be able to adopt.

    If anyone says I'm being sexist, they can shove it up their ass, women are a lot more sexist than men, and if anyone says I'm being homophobic, they can also shove it up their ass (el oh el) as I'm speaking the flat out truth and nobody wants to hear that apart from those who aren't stupid.
    In your reply you've said that gay rights activists should shut up because they have the rights, then you're saying that gay people should be confined to being gay in their own home. I don't see how it makes sense.

    -rep (I'm sure I'm not the first). You can't back up your views. You just say "if you disagree, go away."

    Quote Originally Posted by Kieeran View Post
    i completely agree with u lol i was just about to edit my post with something similar its like racsism if they get refused the adoption the social are then homophobic it riles me lol and also my uncle and his partner are gay and theyve never wanted to adopt if u want kids and ur gay **** a bird, simple
    They can get the sperm inside 'a bird' other ways, but I think gay people feel they're doing a service by adopting, like other people do and why not?

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    k theres alot to take in off this page and i cba quoting it but maybe my opinions did come across slightly forceful and percieved incorrectly however its not changed my mind and i think that diff-sex couples who cant have children should be prioity to adopt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kieeran View Post
    k theres alot to take in off this page and i cba quoting it but maybe my opinions did come across slightly forceful and percieved incorrectly however its not changed my mind and i think that diff-sex couples who cant have children should be prioity to adopt
    What if a same-sex couple could provide a better home than an opposite-sex couple?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Technologic View Post
    Just to clarify, gay people who go out of their way to make it obvious really annoys me. Gay Pride annoys me too, they just alienate being gay and it's stupid.
    I agree with this. We might as well have Blonde Pride Parade or 6ft Tall Pride Parade cus all of those things, including being gay, are normal to who a person is. There is so much more to a person than being gay, sexuality is irrelevant. I dislike it when people live their lives off of being gay.

    (Previously in a conversation with Jen I used the example of having Ginger Pride Parade but she bought up the good point of: "Why would anyone be proud of being ginger?")
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