UKIP Exposed!

[GommeInc]

Ummm, UKIP are against unlimited immigration, not immigration in general. They support the idea that people who come to this country should support and work for it, not just hide-away. The BNP "stereo-type" argument against immigration is "Anyone who is black, or not traditionally british, should be kicked out". Though really their idea is more radical than UKIP, the BNP want immigration to stop, rather than be limited. I think you may have got your stories muddled up, because UKIP aren't against immigration, just unlimited immigration - a huge difference

Immigration

The only people who should decide who can come to live, work and settle in Britain should be the British people themselves. We can only do this outside of the EU political union. The open-door immigration policy has been voted against by only one party – UKIP.

That's not racism. You do not know the meaning of racism, I fear. What they are saying is, immigration is OK but only people who are qualified and useful should work and live in the UK. That's not racism, racism is:

"If it's black, it's gotta go back."
"It's french, chuck 'em in the trench."

And many other rhyming words with nationalities. Again, you do not appear to know any of the parties policies.

Also, to some of you, immigration costs the country MILLIONS a day (that's allowing people in aswell as keeping people out). So anyone who is using the "We should be focusing on the recession, not immigration" card need a damn good slap in the face, considering that money could be put to better use.

[alexxxxx]

can someone please show me some proof that immigration costs us millions a year.... the BNP said recently that immigrants cost the UK 12billion a year, but seeing as only 14% of people in the UK are born outsife the UK, that works out at £2million for each immigrant a year.... which doesn't happen.

Immigrants don't cost us money, they contribute in taxes. Asylum seekers CAN'T because they aren't allowed to work and theres not alot we can do about asylum seekers.

[Hecktix]

Our economy, courts and law, business, fuel, agriculture, fishing..
The final and most important one is, our parliament.

Europe have barely any control over our economy & business.
The main thing Europe have a grasp on is the courts & law and I fail to see how a universal law system would not be beneficial.

can someone please show me some proof that immigration costs us millions a year.... the BNP said recently that immigrants cost the UK 12billion a year, but seeing as only 14% of people in the UK are born outsife the UK, that works out at £2million for each immigrant a year.... which doesn't happen.

Immigrants don't cost us money, they contribute in taxes. Asylum seekers CAN'T because they aren't allowed to work and theres not alot we can do about asylum seekers.

Well said.

[ifuseekamy]

The main thing Europe have a grasp on is the courts & law and I fail to see how a universal law system would not be beneficial.

Because it's not democratic. It's like the land they gave to Spain, I'm not going crazy over the loss of some land but the point is we had no say in the matter.

[Hecktix]

Like you say that's a bit of land.

I think the EU is beneficial for Britain.
We won't switch to the Euro though, which I think is the worst thing about being part of the EU.

[jam666]

Like you say that's a bit of land.

I think the EU is beneficial for Britain.
We won't switch to the Euro though, which I think is the worst thing about being part of the EU.

Why on earth should we switch to the euro?

The pound is what makes us british, it is also one of the strongest currencys in the world and therefore benefits our economy a great deal.

For example if there was financial crisis somewhere else in europe or the rest of the world for example, we would be un-affected as we have an entirely different currency from them.

How can you say a piece of land is a piece of land? hang on a minute if they decided to give the city of london to the french for example? would you tolerate it?. I think not as it is the same priniciple. we have controlled gibrolta for nearly 300 years so why should we allow them to take stretches of sea that WE own?

I would go through more points as to why we should NOT be in the EU but i wont. I dont see any point in myself explaining everything to yourself as when you contribute to an argument you have to have evidense to support your claims and you dont.

[Hecktix]

Comparing the City of London to a bit of the ocean is a crap analogy.

I did say it converting to the Euro would be the worst thing about being in the EU.

We do vote for our MEP's and the majority of seats that will be won on Sunday will be Conservative rather than UKIP or BNP, and this suggests to me that there isnt a desperate desire of British people to get out of the EU.

[alexxxxx]

Why on earth should we switch to the euro?

The pound is what makes us british, it is also one of the strongest currencys in the world and therefore benefits our economy a great deal.

For example if there was financial crisis somewhere else in europe or the rest of the world for example, we would be un-affected as we have an entirely different currency from them.

How can you say a piece of land is a piece of land? hang on a minute if they decided to give the city of london to the french for example? would you tolerate it?. I think not as it is the same priniciple. we have controlled gibrolta for nearly 300 years so why should we allow them to take stretches of sea that WE own?

I would go through more points as to why we should NOT be in the EU but i wont. I dont see any point in myself explaining everything to yourself as when you contribute to an argument you have to have evidense to support your claims and you dont.

Can you read? He said the € is a BAD idea... :eusa_clap

And they didn't give control to the spanish, there was just a mix-up. The spanish don't control some water, they just enetred that water when they had been assigned to look after it. They went away when the Gibraltans told them to go away. :eusa_clap

[jam666]

Like you say that's a bit of land.

I think the EU is beneficial for Britain.
We won't switch to the Euro though, which I think is the worst thing about being part of the EU.

This suggests that the worst thing about being in the EU is not switching to the euro. Therefore you want to switch to the euro.

Comparing the City of London to a bit of the ocean is a crap analogy.

I did say it converting to the Euro would be the worst thing about being in the EU.

We do vote for our MEP's and the majority of seats that will be won on Sunday will be Conservative rather than UKIP or BNP, and this suggests to me that there isnt a desperate desire of British people to get out of the EU.

No it is not abit of a stupid analogy, it is the same principle i even mentioned this in my previous statement.

There is quite alot of people wanting out of the EU, if you actually read the Conservative party policy, you will see that they WILL hold a referendum on the signing of the lisbon treaty if they come into power before it is signed. Labour has promised a referendum since 2005 but has it delivered? No.

Can you read? He said the € is a BAD idea... :eusa_clap

And they didn't give control to the spanish, there was just a mix-up. The spanish don't control some water, they just enetred that water when they had been assigned to look after it. They went away when the Gibraltans told them to go away. :eusa_clap

The EU had no right in letting the spanish look after an area of the ocean that WE own.

[Hecktix]

There is quite alot of people wanting out of the EU, if you actually read the Conservative party policy, you will see that they WILL hold a referendum on the signing of the lisbon treaty if they come into power before it is signed. Labour has promised a referendum since 2005 but has it delivered? No.

And everything the tories say is Gospel is it?
How can you be sure their promise won't be empty too?