Religion & War

[Mentor]

Again, I'd disagree with this as religion is being used as a show of all lifestyles. Without religion we'd still have morality and sometimes a clash of morality (albeit in good faith) does make it appear that good people are doing the wrong thing.

I think you misunderstood stand the quote, evil within the quite is not what one side considers right and the other wrong, for example as you see with issues such as abortion, but instead actions both sides morality think are wrong. Religion allows people a get out clause for committing an act they themselves would otherwize know to be wrong, murder after all is wrong in most religions, yet people will happily go on a killing spree on the belief god wanted them to do it. The belief in god in no way is providing them with a morality that says killing is fine, religion simply features the ability to override morality by attributing it to a higher power.
Hence when he mentions good people doing evil things, he refers to people committing acts they know themselves to be wrong, justifying it on the basis of a "god" commanding them to do so.

Religion allows people to ignore there own morality, without religion and a god though, where people are accountable to themselves rather than a higher power, going against your morality is far harder to justify.

In reference to you last point, statistically the higher the atheistic population of a country the lower the homo side rate and amount of conflicts it engages in. (if you not come accross it ill spend a few mins looking it up if you like )

[Misawa]

I think you misunderstood stand the quote, evil within the quite is not what one side considers right and the other wrong, for example as you see with issues such as abortion, but instead actions both sides morality think are wrong. Religion allows people a get out clause for committing an act they themselves would otherwize know to be wrong, murder after all is wrong in most religions, yet people will happily go on a killing spree on the belief god wanted them to do it. The belief in god in no way is providing them with a morality that says killing is fine, religion simply features the ability to override morality by attributing it to a higher power.
Hence when he mentions good people doing evil things, he refers to people committing acts they know themselves to be wrong, justifying it on the basis of a "god" commanding them to do so.

Religion allows people to ignore there own morality, without religion and a god though, where people are accountable to themselves rather than a higher power, going against your morality is far harder to justify.

In reference to you last point, statistically the higher the atheistic population of a country the lower the homo side rate and amount of conflicts it engages in. (if you not come accross it ill spend a few mins looking it up if you like )

Racial murders are commonplace, unfortunately, but there is no way that the figure of racial homicides would outdo the number of murders committed for whatever other reason that is not racially motivated, so I really don't see how the statistic could hold any weight given the massive difference in scale between racial and non-racial killings.

[Mentor]

Racial murders are commonplace, unfortunately, but there is no way that the figure of racial homicides would outdo the number of murders committed for whatever other reason that is not racially motivated, so I really don't see how the statistic could hold any weight given the massive difference in scale between racial and non-racial killings.

Well there is a pretty large link to be seen between religion and racial killing? Groups such the KKK for example are religiously motivated and played a significant part in the history of racially motivated crime. Equally without the constant oking from religious doctrine, its quite possible the whole slavery concept wouldn't have lasted as long as it did.
Additionally religiously motived killings far out number racial motivated ones as soon as you start looking at global statistics, especially in a historical context

[Cypher-]

Theres a simple formula for the two of them.

Religion is fuelled by power which is the result of war and war is the product of greed fuelled by the need for money.