President Blair

[-:Undertaker:-]

So everyones pretty much arguing about your opinion on what you are assuming blairs powers are going to be. Sounds like a pretty pointless boring left v right debate current affairs thread to me :rolleyes:

Well the fact remains I still haven't assumed what Tony Blairs powers would be in a European President role, whether hes ceremonial or has real power i'm opposed to it both ways.

[Alkaz]

Bring back Tony Blair as PM. Cant be doing much wrong to be the queens 2nd favourite PM.

[Jordy]

however, i would say that actually Britain's history is actually quite shameful (before WW2). Why is 'the empire' seen as a symbol of great power and how good we were when actually we were destroying different countries' cultues, land, crops taking their resources etc, ruling them, they had no say. Why is this something to be proud of. No doubt it has attributed to our success today but that doesn't make it right, not now and not then.

It isn't right now, I think most people today condemn countries going around conquering others, hence why it no longer happens and there's an uproar when it's attempted. It's wrong to do it.

Back then? It was acceptable yes, if we didn't do it the French, Spanish or Portuguese would of done it instead, simple as. You simply can't apply the same level of 'Human Rights' to history which we take for granted today.

[Ramones]

Well the fact remains I still haven't assumed what Tony Blairs powers would be in a European President role, whether hes ceremonial or has real power i'm opposed to it both ways.

I think the word 'President' gives you some clue as to what his role is to be, surely?

President is usually the head of something, such as head of state which means Tony Blair will have a powerful role within the European Union. They are trying to centralise the European Union at the moment so the European Union becomes more powerful, removing sovereign state independance even more than it has been eroded now.

You kinda did. And why would you be bothered if he has a ceremonial role :S

[-:Undertaker:-]

That is what a President is; a head of state/a body, I haven't assumed the roles of the President of the EU role at all. As for why I would be bothered, because I loathe the man, especially regrading the invasion of Iraq which he lied to this country and the world about, and because of that war over one million people have died and a country is now in tatters - not to mention the money he will be getting paid is basically coming from British taxpayers, eg; my mum and dad.

[Ramones]

President is usually the head of something, such as head of state which means Tony Blair will have a powerful role within the European Union. They are trying to centralise the European Union at the moment so the European Union becomes more powerful, removing sovereign state independance even more than it has been eroded now.

That is what a President is; a head of state/a body, I haven't assumed the roles of the President of the EU role at all. As for why I would be bothered, because I loathe the man, especially regrading the invasion of Iraq which he lied to this country and the world about, and because of that war over one million people have died and a country is now in tatters - not to mention the money he will be getting paid is basically coming from British taxpayers, eg; my mum and dad.

'Tony Blair will have a powerful role within the European Union'

'I still haven't assumed what Tony Blairs powers would be in a European President role, whether hes ceremonial or has real power'

I think they're pretty contradicting.

I don't think you can assume Iraq would be so much better if we didn't join the war, but that's another debate.

And yeah, i'd be pretty worried about the 0.5p Tony will be taking out of your parents yearly salaries, Outrageous.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Indeed the role of President in something usually indicates a powerful role, hence why the Presidents/Prime Ministers of Europe have all commented on the issue. I do believe that Iraq was a better place before the war, Iraq was one of the most liberal middle eastern states you'd be suprised to hear.

It all adds up, so much for Tony being a socialist - shouldn't he be giving up the majority of his wages and not buying top notch houses?

[Ramones]

Indeed the role of President in something usually indicates a powerful role, hence why the Presidents/Prime Ministers of Europe have all commented on the issue. I do believe that Iraq was a better place before the war, Iraq was one of the most liberal middle eastern states you'd be suprised to hear.

It all adds up, so much for Tony being a socialist - shouldn't he be giving up the majority of his wages and not buying top notch houses?

Haha i think you should try and be a politician one day, you're pretty good at avoiding and bouncing back confronting statements. Although your last comment is pretty ridiculous.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Haha i think you should try and be a politician one day, you're pretty good at avoiding and bouncing back confronting statements. Although your last comment is pretty ridiculous.

I'll take it as a compliment, I do try and answer to best of my ability, although the last comment is rather true, Labour politicians constantly knock the Conservatives over wealth issues, yet they are just as bad.

You should always practise what you preach.

[Frodo13.]

It all adds up, so much for Tony being a socialist - shouldn't he be giving up the majority of his wages and not buying top notch houses?

He's not a socialist, he follows the ideology of democratic socialism and social democracy - both of which is entirely different to socialism, which infact, is better in explaining the regimes of the USSR and China.