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Thread: Does God Exist?

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    That video tells me no.
    Its impossible that one lonely person would come up with such an amazingly intricate global economy, evolution, everything by themselves. It's all science. No such thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by //Tom View Post
    If there was a god why would so much crap happen?
    Ever watch Bruce Almighty? Free will.
    i'm out of touch, i'm out of love
    i'll pick you up when you're getting down
    and out of all these things i've done
    i think i love you better now

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    God doesnt exist, it's just a way to make people feel better about dying.
    Gutted for thoes people that have followed the bible and then have died to find out these no heaven. Waste of time



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    Quote Originally Posted by Biohazard View Post
    Ever watch Bruce Almighty? Free will.
    Freewill for all intensive purpose's is a myth o.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roboevil View Post
    The existence of God makes no sense to me. I don't see what makes him so special, why doesn't anyone believe in Thor, Zeus, Isis, Quetzacoatl? What makes the Christian God, or Allah so much different?

    I think we can all agree that our planet, and our lives are a tiny speck in the Universe. What is god trying to prove by creating us and judging us for heaven? Who is he trying to prove it to--if he's an omnipotent unique being, did he create us for himself? If he did then, for what cause?

    What is he trying to hide from us? Why has he set up the world to make it seem so impossible for us to prove that he exists?

    I don't like how it seems as though people are making up their own meanings to the Bible. The Bible says god created the universe in 6 days; obviously with science that now sounds ludicrous, so people try to interpret it in their own way by saying it's the 6 time periods in history.
    The bible also says to burn witches and stone adulterers, if this is god's word, then why don't Christians do it anymore?
    If you're going to be a Christian, take the Bible literally, that was its original intention.

    Believing in god is an archaic way of finding the truth of the universe, there is no logic and reason for it. With all the modern day evidence, believing in god should be a last resort.

    I cannot find a good argument that proves the existence of god. Religion offers nothing but fictional fairy tales.
    Historial mythical figures died out once the cizivisation died out or was forced into alternative beliefs due to invasion and take over (e.g. Egyptian beliefs), personally I value these beliefs more and would prefer them to the ones that are mainstream now. Faith and beliefs were created to make logical sense about life, the unknown of death and the natural forces of the universe. Modern day religion is simply a reluctance to abandon these beliefs due to the unknown people have been brought up to believe awaits them if they abandon them. Logic and enlightenment are not valued in mainstream religion (particularly Christianity) anymore, only tradition and blind belief exist due to traditional upbringing and lack of knowledge of a world without such beliefs, this is also due to the religion itself rejecting anything which is not traditional to their faith.

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    I believe there is a god but i believe the big bang happend, what scientists d onot take int oaccoutn was ok chemicals could of made the reaction but what made the chemicals?

    also im all up on peoples opinion but i think people that say pfffft no or stupid jokes is just because there insecure abotu what other people think about them.
    if yes / no just provide a logical answer rather than making a childish joke...
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    The human eye? God must exist because of how intricate the human eye is? :S **** me.

    My parents are/were fairly religious, coming from Ireland and therefore I was brought up to believe in God and I went to church all my life until just before I went to uni really. The answer is no, I do not believe in God. Throwing something at me so stupid as to basically say, 'this is so unlikely therefore God is the only possible cause of it' will if anything, drive me further away.

    For starters, how can you take any book seriously that has had countless authors contributing to it and has been translated and manipulated even more times over thousands of years? I think it would take a very naive person to do that.

    I've spent the last couple of years of my life basically wrecking my head about whether I've effectively wasted my life up to now, and whether my dad wasted the whole of his life and whether my mum is still wasting hers. It feels like such a stupid thing to just believe, especially only because you are simply told to and yet I can't accept that my dad would have spent his whole life doing just that; wasting his life believing simply because he was told to by his parents and so on. Apart from that, he was an extremely intelligent person. He was the person I'd go to with any question or problem (obviously, I suppose), but he always had the answers. Religion was the only thing I think he got wrong.

    Don't get me wrong, I really want heaven to be a real thing. I can't imagine why you'd prefer to just die, rather than go to a heaven (assuming it is as described; a perfect place with no unhappiness). Yet at the moment I don't believe it is real.

    Even if I were going to be a theist, I don't see why Christianity should be "the one". If I had to make a list, it would probably rank pretty low anyway.

    While my whole perspective of life has changed, I think I'll always have that spec of hope that it is in fact all real. After all, if I accept everything that is, is possible based on probability, then I must also accept that no matter how small, there is a probability that God does exist.

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    religion is a debate that can never be won. Nobody can prove beyond a doubt that god does or doesn't exist.

    The end.


    "All it takes for evil to conquer
    is for good men to do nothing."




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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost_Addict View Post
    I believe there is a god but i believe the big bang happend, what scientists d onot take int oaccoutn was ok chemicals could of made the reaction but what made the chemicals?

    also im all up on peoples opinion but i think people that say pfffft no or stupid jokes is just because there insecure abotu what other people think about them.
    if yes / no just provide a logical answer rather than making a childish joke...
    Religion feeds of ignorance, the reason creationists don't believe in evolution isn't based on any logical reasoning, but instead or purely having no idea what evolution even is, never lone how it works. Christianity protects its interest by spreading outright lies about scientific theories in order to make them sound less credible.

    You unfortunately are getting them to it seems. Before matter/the universe or even time exists, there were chemicals just magically sitting there which then exploded to create the universe? if thats what you've been told of the big bang no wonder is sounds absurd. It is.
    The Big bang theory has no claims of any chemicals sitting there, or a reaction of these chemicals that caused an explosion. The big bang isn't even directly related to the beginning of the universe itself, its an event thought to have happens a few nano seconds after the universes advent when all the matter in the universe was packed in to an almost infinity small and dense mass. The specifics are disagreed on, but a common understanding is the explosion that sent are universe speeding out to form what we now know of it, was a reaction of matter and anti-matter, both which were crammed together. When matter/antimatter collides, enormous amounts of energy was released, splitting the atom has nothing on these sorts of quantities. Fortunately the amounts of matter / anti matter were not the same, once everything had canceled out, one was left over, formed the universe as we know it, and was dubbed matter by us.

    As to the original creation of the universe there are a great number of different theories about what exactly happened. Noting that time having started with the universe itself, being just another dimension in it, the idea of a before the universe doesn't really make sense. M theory proposes the event may have been caused by another dimension overlapping with our own, but this is pure hypothesis as far as I'm aware in its current state. Are scientific understanding as it is, isnt able to answer such questions yet for sure. Because we accept this, rather than make up an answer (god) or give up, we simply progress with research and science in general, increasing are overall understanding and slowly moving us towards a point we really will be able to say with some assurance exactly what happened and why
    For now, the why is best left to philosophy
    Quote Originally Posted by Aces View Post
    religion is a debate that can never be won. Nobody can prove beyond a doubt that god does or doesn't exist.

    The end.
    An abstract god no. The Christan, Muslim, Jewish and pretty much any other concept of god you want to mention on the other hand can be. Specific qualities of these gods are mentioned and on a purely logical basis fail miserably. The simple paradox "Could god make a rock so heavy he could not lift it" illustrates this. Being all powerful (omnipotent) is not logically sound, so any god with such a trait (all of the aforementioned) could not logically exist.
    Last edited by Mentor; 14-08-2009 at 09:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mentor View Post
    Religion feeds of ignorance, the reason creationists don't believe in evolution isn't based on any logical reasoning, but instead or purely having no idea what evolution even is, never lone how it works. Christianity protects its interest by spreading outright lies about scientific theories in order to make them sound less credible.

    You unfortunately are getting them to it seems. Before matter/the universe or even time exists, there were chemicals just magically sitting there which then exploded to create the universe? if thats what you've been told of the big bang no wonder is sounds absurd. It is.
    The Big bang theory has no claims of any chemicals sitting there, or a reaction of these chemicals that caused an explosion. The big bang isn't even directly related to the beginning of the universe itself, its an event thought to have happens a few nano seconds after the universes advent when all the matter in the universe was packed in to an almost infinity small and dense mass. The specifics are disagreed on, but a common understanding is the explosion that sent are universe speeding out to form what we now know of it, was a reaction of matter and anti-matter, both which were crammed together. When matter/antimatter collides, enormous amounts of energy was released, splitting the atom has nothing on these sorts of quantities. Fortunately the amounts of matter / anti matter were not the same, once everything had canceled out, one was left over, formed the universe as we know it, and was dubbed matter by us.

    As to the original creation of the universe there are a great number of different theories about what exactly happened. Noting that time having started with the universe itself, being just another dimension in it, the idea of a before the universe doesn't really make sense. M theory proposes the event may have been caused by another dimension overlapping with our own, but this is pure hypothesis as far as I'm aware in its current state. Are scientific understanding as it is, isnt able to answer such questions yet for sure. Because we accept this, rather than make up an answer (god) or give up, we simply progress with research and science in general, increasing are overall understanding and slowly moving us towards a point we really will be able to say with some assurance exactly what happened and why
    For now, the why is best left to philosophy
    Very nicely put , it also raises a point of why religious people deny this theory. Religious followers, particularly in the mainstream religions cannot agree that matter and energy etc. has always existed, which is their main argument, and their main downfall. They can argue that matter must begin at some point and therefore it must have been created, but then again, they make the exact same claim about their god, he/she/they have always existed and created the universe, so why is it that god has always existed but not matter. So basically both fail to be justified from the very beginning, but what is proven and shown afterwards is what justifies whether or not god can exist and why belief in science is growing while religious beliefs are gradually failing.

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