Being born Gay

[NIKKEE]

Erm, if you're pretending - then you're hiding yourself aren't you?
So, all the gay guys 'in hiding' are basically chosing to be straight, even though they're not - doesn't make sense to me... you cannot call that straight.

Yeah you can, they were straight at the time and so I'd call them straight.

[Hazza]

But they weren't straight - they were gay but in denial? :S

[NIKKEE]

But they weren't straight - they were gay but in denial? :S

But who's to know that? They were doing straight stuff at the time so they were straight then.

[Hazza]

You have a rather one way look when viewing things, but fair enough - thats your opinion.

[DamianLove]

I know loads of people that are gay yet do straight stuff for a laugh and whatever.
Sexuality is just something that is never going to be fully understood and an arguement no one is going to win.

[lick]

I know loads of people that are gay yet do straight stuff for a laugh and whatever.
Sexuality is just something that is never going to be fully understood and an arguement no one is going to win.

Whats classed as straight stuff? :S

[NIKKEE]

That's what a view or opinion is, one way. You were hardly agreeing with me either. I wasn't making some outlandish statement either, all I'm saying is even if you're in denial or you're pretending to be gay, at the time you were doing either straight or gay stuff, it was straight or gay at that time, no matter what you are later in life.

[DamianLove]

Whats classed as straight stuff? :S

anything between a male and a female thats more than kissing. aha.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Yeah you can :S quite easily

No you cannot, a gay guy cannot sexually be attracted to a girl, hence why is he gay.

Yes but you wouldn't say he's gay but he goes out with girls, you would say he's straight. And you wouldn't say he's straight but he goes out with guys, as that would be gay.
I don't really see the difference if you're pretending or really are, if you're a guy and you're doing a guy, then in my eyes you're gay.

My whole general point that has been picked apart was that people aren't born gay. I think babies are blank canvases and it's people and their surroundings that make them who they are.

No you wouldn't.

Here is an example.

A guy fancies guys, and guys only. He is confused, in denial basically. He then goes out with girls ..is he straight? - no and he never will be. It is who you are attracted to, not who you want to be attracted to.

But who's to know that? They were doing straight stuff at the time so they were straight then.

No, they were gay but in denial.

[lick]

anything between a male and a female thats more than kissing. aha.

Oh thought you was on about things like hobbies etc