New high-speed rail plan unveiled.

[UKIP]

backing up your arguments as usual again. great post +rep

The farming policy of the European Union benefits the French greatly compared to other nations, because the French have vast numbers of fields which can grow food. Why do you think the French government are so keen on the European Union?.. then again, we could ask the same on why Labour are so keen on the European Union - because thats where they get their unelected highly paid jobs after they leave office, disgraced and hated by their home nation; Mandelson, Blair and the Kinnocks + god knows how many more sleeze-ridden liars there are in Brussels, all funded for by us, the British taxpayer while our own roads crumble to pieces and people are refused life-extending drugs because the country apparently has no money.

You're quick to jump to the defence of the European Union (unelected in such modern times) which has accomplished nothing, yet are quick to stamp all over the legacy of the British Empire which brought wealth, jobs, building & healthcare across the world and to the third world.

[alexxxxx]

i'm not denying the legacy, it's there for all to see, i'm just saying it was immoral. The EU has brought stability and prosperity to Europe, easy to see.

where's the backup for your original argument?

[UKIP]

I just provided the backup to my orginal post, if you'd like me to post links to right wing sites then I will do as we could go on all night if we did that and it wouldn't sway the discussion one bit, as i've always said.

i'm not denying the legacy, it's there for all to see, i'm just saying it was immoral. The EU has brought stability and prosperity to Europe, easy to see.

where's the backup for your original argument?

What stability and prosperity has it brought to Europe?

.. did I miss the second coming of Hitler or something?

[alexxxxx]

I just provided the backup to my orginal post, if you'd like me to post links to right wing sites then I will do as we could go on all night if we did that and it wouldn't sway the discussion one bit, as i've always said.



What stability and prosperity has it brought to Europe?

.. did I miss the second coming of Hitler or something?

well exactly, where's hitler number 2? and id love to see these sites that say the EU built the french TGVs. because i know the majority of it came from tolls on autoroutes. I may be wrong and i'm not saying the EU didn't build them, you just have to show me some sort of evidence to back up the claim.

[UKIP]

well exactly, where's hitler number 2?

Oh so because we haven't had another Adolf Hitler recently the European Union stopped him before he could get us, oh right.

If only we'd of known back in the 1930s' that having unelected officals in Brussels ruling us while being made to pay billions into an organisation in which billions have gone missing from its financial books would have saved us from having to go through the trouble of world war two.

"unelected officals" - oh hang on! that was Hitlers job!

[alexxxxx]

Oh so because we haven't had another Adolf Hitler recently the European Union stopped him before he could get us, oh right.

If only we'd of known back in the 1930s' that having unelected officals in Brussels ruling us while being made to pay billions into an organisation in which billions have gone missing from its financial books would have saved us from having to go through the trouble of world war two.

"unelected officals" - oh hang on! that was Hitlers job!

Hitler was elected. plus, i think that an organisation like that would have helped indeed. The League Of Nations, what the UN evolved from, was dreadful, it intentionally isolated Germany, infact, it provoked it with the treaty of versailles, so yes, you could say that a stable europe economically could have prevented WW2.

You could then say that the stability after world war two and more cooperation economically has prevented wars. You only have to look at former Yugislavia, ex-comminist, but independent of the USSR to see nations ruined by war, as they were less developed economically and socially.

Oh also, where's this evidence?

[StefanWolves]

Wow, why does every thread that 'UKIP' posts in always turn into an argument or some sort of a debate that is not on-topc?? fgs guys, stop it.

[alexxxxx]

sorry. i won't do it again.

[StefanWolves]

sorry. i won't do it again.

put it this way, 1% of my post was directed at you, 99% at UKIP, .

[UKIP]

Hitler was elected. plus, i think that an organisation like that would have helped indeed. The League Of Nations, what the UN evolved from, was dreadful, it intentionally isolated Germany, infact, it provoked it with the treaty of versailles, so yes, you could say that a stable europe economically could have prevented WW2.

You could then say that the stability after world war two and more cooperation economically has prevented wars. You only have to look at former Yugislavia, ex-comminist, but independent of the USSR to see nations ruined by war, as they were less developed economically and socially.

Oh also, where's this evidence?

Hitler was elected first time around through bullying tactics and cheating, Hitler then abolished elections which means he wasn't electedand at least Hitler actually gained some support, since when have we ever been asked who we want to be in command of the European Union, let alone if we even want it or if we want it to gather more sovereign powers?.. oh thats right, Ireland, France & the Netherlands all did get asked that last question, and they all said no but it fell on deaf ears (suprise suprise).

If a stable Europe would of prevented World War II, then why now did the European Union fail to avoid the recent financial crisis which could of quite easily of turned into a depression far worse than the one before World War II. The European Union has solved, done, fixed or prevented jack all.

I think the organisation you are looking for is called NATO which protected Europe from the advance of the socialist USSR, not the European Union; and if you think the European Union has prevented Europe going into another World War then you have just been brainwashed by Brussels completely and your assured your place on the EU gravy train.

As for the evidence I never actually said the high speed trains were paid for by the European Union/us, I said it was most likely paid for by us/European Union which in other words means the British taxpayer.

Wow, why does every thread that 'UKIP' posts in always turn into an argument or some sort of a debate that is not on-topc?? fgs guys, stop it.

Wow, why does everytime I post in this forum can you not wait to say something like that? (again and again).

Why does every post I have posted on this account and my other account have the same reply posted from you all the time, you're not involved and don't want to be involved I presume, so lets keep it that way?.