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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamedragon3 View Post
    Lmao exactly what I said has happened. When Chelsea got the ban, I said that City, United and Liverpool will be next. United and City have now been dragged into the same thing and it could be a matter of time for Liverpool to get accused of a similar thing or something else I bet, even Arsenal might be dragged into this. :rolleyes: I hope they don't because at least one of the strongest teams in England is actually getting accused of something from FIFA/UEFA.

    Should be interesting to see if we all these clubs are going to recieve a transfer ban. I'm happy with it in a way as it is stoping bigger clubs recieving transfer bans, but this could apply to even more clubs and I'm on about the whole of Europe... there is going to be many unhappy clubs, but I guess at least its should stop something like this happening in the future.

    FIFA just need to bring in a rule that stops any club buying a player under the age of 18 to stop this happening in future.
    They shouldn't stop people from buying people under 18. It would stop pteams bringing in top talent and would inflate the market as they would have to pay top money for these players later on. Also, it would stop the growth of players who are playing for lesser teams. Look at Fabregas who was bought at 16, Ronaldo who was bought at 18 e/c/t.


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    Haha Liverpool been reported now.

    Liverpool were linked with Clayton in February 2008 and were willing to pay a six-figure sum to take him to Anfield.
    Crewe rejected the approach, but Gradi says Clayton now wants to leave.
    so it looks like Liverpool made an approach, club said no, player is aware, and now wants to move on.....
    Last edited by Jack.Lfc; 08-09-2009 at 04:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHA!NGANG View Post
    They shouldn't stop people from buying people under 18. It would stop pteams bringing in top talent and would inflate the market as they would have to pay top money for these players later on. Also, it would stop the growth of players who are playing for lesser teams. Look at Fabregas who was bought at 16, Ronaldo who was bought at 18 e/c/t.
    But allowing big clubs to poach players under 18 stops smaller clubs from having good players? It also removes some talent that the club have created and helped develop.

    Liverpool are now being accused, just shows how stupid this is becoming. :rolleyes: If transfer bans are going to be given out, then the next transfer window or two are going to be very boring...

    Also does anyone know who else has recieved a transfer ban? I heard that a Swiss and Italian club recieved bans but I don't know if this is true?

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    All small teams are starting it to get money, its stupid. You cant even make a approach to the club now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack.Lfc View Post
    All small teams are starting it to get money, its stupid. You cant even make a approach to the club now.
    I agree. There also using it as a publicity stunt so their club becomes more reconisable and popular. :rolleyes:

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    Arsenal have to be one of da main offenders cos dry always buyin da young french playas init

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamedragon3 View Post
    But allowing big clubs to poach players under 18 stops smaller clubs from having good players? It also removes some talent that the club have created and helped develop.

    Liverpool are now being accused, just shows how stupid this is becoming. :rolleyes: If transfer bans are going to be given out, then the next transfer window or two are going to be very boring...

    Also does anyone know who else has recieved a transfer ban? I heard that a Swiss and Italian club recieved bans but I don't know if this is true?
    I agree in some ways, but by the ages of 17/18, if you have the talent, then you really should be picked up by a bigger club. If smaller clubs have 1 good player, it doesn't mean they will be good so they might as well sell that player. Plus, It's not like Barca had to sell Fabregas to us. They didn't know of the talent he had so they sold him, and now they regret it a lot as he would be perfect for Barca.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catch22 View Post
    Arsenal have to be one of da main offenders cos dry always buyin da young french playas init
    Take it you haven't actually read the thread then...
    We buy young Players, but we buy them properly. It doesn't say you can't buy young players, it's the manor which you buy them. I can't see City/United and Liverpool getting banned. If they are, then Arsenal won't spend anyway really so the Prem won't buy many players in the next year or so.
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    Nah, you shouldn't be able to buy players under 18. It increses the chance of quality homegrown talent coming through, ie. Wilshere.

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    CHA!NGANG I wont say that your opinion is utter garbage I will however state that I don't personally agree with what you're saying.

    If a young player is doing well at Rochdale and is improving his game then he'll get first team appearances. These starts will do him the world of good, he'll learn more playing on that pitch. Once he's turned 18/19/20 he'll be a really good player if he does hold the talent to be such a player.

    If however a club like Manchester City/Chelsea/Liverpool come in for him and offer him a state of the art training complex, youth games, a house and a bumper pay deal then he'll move. Yes he'll have the training complex which will help him a little bit however youth games and a training complex wont do him as much good as playing for the first team. If he moves to a "big" club he wont get as many chances to get to play for the first team for sometime, if any at all.

    We see it all the time. Young kids moving to big clubs with bags of talent however they end up in League 1/League 2 etc because they weren't given the chance to break through to the first team. Effectively they then rot on the reserves and eating away at the wages until the club decide to offload them. When they get offloaded not many clubs are intrested because he hasn't got any/much first team experiance.

    If they stayed at the "smaller" clubs till 18/19/20 they'll have this experiance. If a player is as good as Ronaldo/Fabregas they will still be able to have such an impact on the game when they're older. It'll just mean they have more experiance playing for the first team and more of a level head.

    As you might of guessed I'm all for keeping players at the clubs they start at. FIFA could say either no club can purchase a player younger than 18 or do what the Brazilian clubs do (minus the movement inside the country) and say that you can agree a move for the player however they can't move till they're 18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lBlue View Post
    CHA!NGANG I wont say that your opinion is utter garbage I will however state that I don't personally agree with what you're saying.

    If a young player is doing well at Rochdale and is improving his game then he'll get first team appearances. These starts will do him the world of good, he'll learn more playing on that pitch. Once he's turned 18/19/20 he'll be a really good player if he does hold the talent to be such a player.

    If however a club like Manchester City/Chelsea/Liverpool come in for him and offer him a state of the art training complex, youth games, a house and a bumper pay deal then he'll move. Yes he'll have the training complex which will help him a little bit however youth games and a training complex wont do him as much good as playing for the first team. If he moves to a "big" club he wont get as many chances to get to play for the first team for sometime, if any at all.

    We see it all the time. Young kids moving to big clubs with bags of talent however they end up in League 1/League 2 etc because they weren't given the chance to break through to the first team. Effectively they then rot on the reserves and eating away at the wages until the club decide to offload them. When they get offloaded not many clubs are intrested because he hasn't got any/much first team experiance.

    If they stayed at the "smaller" clubs till 18/19/20 they'll have this experiance. If a player is as good as Ronaldo/Fabregas they will still be able to have such an impact on the game when they're older. It'll just mean they have more experiance playing for the first team and more of a level head.

    As you might of guessed I'm all for keeping players at the clubs they start at. FIFA could say either no club can purchase a player younger than 18 or do what the Brazilian clubs do (minus the movement inside the country) and say that you can agree a move for the player however they can't move till they're 18.
    I see where you and the people above are coming from, but imagin if Ronaldo was left till he was 20 to play for Sporting or wherever he played before, and same for Fabregas. Fabregas is only 22 and is an amazing player, if we waited till he was 20/21 and bought him, not only would he be about £10 - 20 million, but he might not have even played for Barca, same for Ronaldo. By the time he was 20/21, he was already an amazing player. I think it takes a cunning manager to buy youth players and turn them into stars, buying them when they are already well known and throwing cash at them will remove that cunningness. Although, I have to say that idea about agreeing a deal but not actually moving till there 18 is a good idea and I think that should be introduced definently.

    Most people applaud teams like Arsenal who buy young players and building them up, but introducing a ban on that would mean teams have to pay a lot more money for the player a few years later, and would increase inflation in my opinion.


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