Derren Brown to predict national lottery numbers

[brandon]

I think it's similar to this trick on Don't Miss A Trick, where they have a split screen, one with live footage the other with recorded. When Brown was standing by the television, they shew a recorded image of the blank balls, changed them to the correct numbers while we were watching the recorded blank balls, and then ended the split screen, showing live footage of the changed numbers.

[Andys]

I think it's similar to this trick on Don't Miss A Trick, where they have a split screen, one with live footage the other with recorded. When Brown was standing by the television, they shew a recorded image of the blank balls, changed them to the correct numbers while we were watching the recorded blank balls, and then ended the split screen, showing live footage of the changed numbers.

thats could be it actually
edit: http://www.lottery.co.uk/results/
wrong.

[Pyroka]

Yeah I think you're right there Brandon, because the image was very shaky which would explain why one side wasn't moving yet the other side was, the picture was getting wider.

I think ya deffo right.

[cameramatt]

you can tell camera trickery - he walks in with handheld camera, cut to wide showing him and handheld camera, cut back to closeup from previous 'handheld camera', except its now not really the handheld camera but a computer simulated camera judder and movement enabling the split screen where someone is placing the balls, then remove splut screen and show him walking over to balls, turn around and hey presto.

[Immenseman]

not looking through thread... youtube link? o.O

[leah]

I think it's similar to this trick on Don't Miss A Trick, where they have a split screen, one with live footage the other with recorded. When Brown was standing by the television, they shew a recorded image of the blank balls, changed them to the correct numbers while we were watching the recorded blank balls, and then ended the split screen, showing live footage of the changed numbers.

interestinggggg

[Sammeth.]

He used the same method he did last year if you saw his programme where he was at the races. He's spent a year of his life looking at every single lotto draw and seeing the probability of the numbers, then making a formula - essentially it was those numbers' turn tonight. Hard to explain but he did it last year.

Yeah, either that or its an illusion.

[Black_Apalachi]

He used the same method he did last year if you saw his programme where he was at the races. He's spent a year of his life looking at every single lotto draw and seeing the probability of the numbers, then making a formula - essentially it was those numbers' turn tonight. Hard to explain but he did it last year.

Every number has an equal probability, and no number whatsoever can affect any other number showing up.

And the horses thing was just the trick of 'what was shown' - he only showed on TV the woman that DID get them all right.

Exactly what I was going to say.

If it's the same as his racecourse programme, which it looks like it is, he uses maths to work out a formula based on probability using all the past results. There's more to it, but it's complicated.

At the horse race one, he made a person bet on every horse but only showed us those who won their bets and put them through to the next round. This repeated until the final woman who then picked a horse in a race but he secretly placed a bet on all the runners.

For him to be using that same method here, he would have to have bought a ticket for every combination of 6 numbers between 1 and 49 inclusive. I don't know how much that would cost but it has been proven to cost substancially more than can ever be won.

I don't follow exactly what Brandon suggested but the fact he didn't say the numbers until AFTER the draw rang all the alarm bells for me. I can't remember if the white balls were always in the shot or if they were out of shot during the draw. But the only way I can see is that those balls were matched to the draw one by one as the draw took place. Major anti-climax on Friday me thinks.

[Tintinnabulate]

Watched it on youtube, didnt look like a split screen.

[Sammeth.]

He's an entertainer, an illusionist, a magician. When he's expaining something its not necessarily how he did it. Rather its simply an explination to make the trick sound more believable and make the person feel more comfortable with the plausibility of it actually being able to happen. He didn't study lottery tickets for a year, and then make an educated guess. Thats just silly. Its a tRiCk. mAgIk.