BNP to appear on Question Time

[-:Undertaker:-]

I am fully aware of proportional voting systems and in terms of proportionality the best electoral system is the Additional Members System (AMS). They do have little representation and the additional votes that they have obtained over the General Election will generally be protest votes. The BNP and other extremist parties always do better in the European Elections in terms not only of Seats but percentage also.


Even when its the denial of 17 Million deaths which is proven beyond any shadow of a doubt? and yes Holocaust Denial is illegal under European Law.


I don't keep dismissing that, not at all. Like I keep saying the European elections do not represent British views. People often vote in protest and even if that weren't true, only 34% of the voting population voted in the Election. This reduces the legitimacy of the victory because it will be more extreme and politically motivated people that are likely to vote and the "drifters" between Labour and the Conservatives won't because they honestly aren't that bothered. If you want electoral results then you have to look at the General Elections.


No, not at all. Protest voters tend to vote for extremist parties whomn they feel have little chance of getting anywhere, hence the term "protest", they are throwing their vote away to say "I don't believe in what my party is doing". However the majority of the British electorate do not realise that they do have a chance of getting somewhere under a proportional voting system.

If you are fully aware then you would know that proportional representation means the number of votes each party gets reflects the number of seats they get, therefore that annuls your claim of the British National Party not being representative of the British electorate.

I am not saying it didn't happen, I am merely saying that I believe anybody should be able to say what they want about history - thats the beauty of the subject, any European laws I do not see as genuine law as the European Union has won no elections whereas at least the Nazi Party won a big enough share of the vote in one election to form a government. My original point still stands, the British National Party are legal, not illegal.

All elections have low turnout, so in your logic we should forget all elections as we do not get a 100% majority turnout and declare a dictatorship? - give me a break, the European Parliamentary Elections are a measure of public opinion and it showed with the Conservatives increasing their seats and UKIP gaining over Labour at the time, which followed the trends of opinion polls. You are so determined to ignore the factual results of the European Election, the British National Party won two seats, accept it.

A lot of Labour voters turn to the BNP like a lot of Conservative voters turn to UKIP. Therefore i'm afraid protest votes have always existed and you need to accept that, the British National Party won two seats and is therefore entitled to voice their views and the views of a portion of the electorate on Question Time.

What was the point in fighting a world war when people like you are proposing we ban political partys we dont agree with from standing for election?

[Ardemax]

where did i "imply" you were behind the BNP.

[-:Undertaker:-]

where did i "imply" you were behind the BNP.

UKIP i don't like the way you argue

You seem to be so sure that BNP is the way forward


BNP as said, are racist scumbags, who don't deserve to be on question time

next time someone should throw more than an egg and nick griffin

sorry, didn't realise you had to have a tag on you that said "WE LOVE RACISTS" before you can debate in this thread

There and there, so now maybe you'd like to tell me how I have said/support that the BNP are the way forward?.

You could also maybe reply to the other thread aswell, where you named UKIP as racist yet have again dodged my question.

[Technologic]

You can't ban the BNP, live with it.

Anyway, the BNP has essentially run out of money so they're in a big pile of it atm.

[Ardemax]

I said you seem to be so sure the BNP is the way forward

not necessarily backing them

[Madox]

Aalright, one question for UKIP. you say they are not racists nor homophobic explain why they are splashed all over the newspapers BURRING a golly wog? also they adapted the NAZI salute which is also seen as racist, and finally people who do think this UKIP guy dose not understand anything about politics? and even better no one needs to worry hes probably not even old enough to vote!

[Dan2nd]

Aalright, one question for UKIP. you say they are not racists nor homophobic explain why they are splashed all over the newspapers BURRING a golly wog? also they adapted the NAZI salute which is also seen as racist, and finally people who do think this UKIP guy dose not understand anything about politics? and even better no one needs to worry hes probably not even old enough to vote!

He hasn't said either he has mearly been saying that their views may be unpopular but that doesn't make them an illegal party:

Their ideologies are not against the law as they are not an illegal party, therefore until they are an illegal party it would be democratic of you to actually accept they do represent the British electorate and they are fully entitled to take part in a state funded companies political show.

I have no idea how old he is but what has that got to do with anything? Does not being old enough to vote mean you are excempt from having any sort of an opinion....

I'll repeat what I said earlier if the BNP are so bad surely it would be good to put them on the show so they will be exposed. Personally I will be watching that edition of Question Time because I'll be quite interested to see how they react to the public's questions.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I said you seem to be so sure the BNP is the way forward

not necessarily backing them

That is backing someone, and if you actually read my posts properly you'd notice I am supporting the idea of democracy and free speech by letting them on a show such as Question Time.

Aalright, one question for UKIP. you say they are not racists nor homophobic explain why they are splashed all over the newspapers BURRING a golly wog? also they adapted the NAZI salute which is also seen as racist, and finally people who do think this UKIP guy dose not understand anything about politics? and even better no one needs to worry hes probably not even old enough to vote!

I haven't said they aren't racist, I have said before some of their policies go too far and I know the party is home to a host of racist thugs, if you'd of actually read my posts properly you'd know that I don't support the British National Party as it is a mix of left and right politics (facism) and I think if they did gain power they would actually ruin the economy with their left wing ideas - futhermore thats why my account is called UKIP and not BNP.

The British National Party are legal, democratically elected and the sixth biggest party within England - you talk about Nazism but yet by banning the BNP you'd be carrying out exactly the same policy as Hitler did after gaining office.

[Ardemax]

That is backing someone, and if you actually read my posts properly you'd notice I am supporting the idea of democracy and free speech by letting them on a show such as Question Time.



I haven't said they aren't racist, I have said before some of their policies go too far and I know the party is home to a host of racist thugs, if you'd of actually read my posts properly you'd know that I don't support the British National Party as it is a mix of left and right politics (facism) and I think if they did gain power they would actually ruin the economy with their left wing ideas - futhermore thats why my account is called UKIP and not BNP.

The British National Party are legal, democratically elected and the sixth biggest party within England - you talk about Nazism but yet by banning the BNP you'd be carrying out exactly the same policy as Hitler did after gaining office.

you go off on other stuff than the thing discussed
i haven't said anything about your democracy?

im pretty sure everyone believes in it..

[Bun]

QT with the BNP is set for 22nd October, im actually really looking forward to it lol.