Jade Dragon - It is Normal!!!!

[Ajthedragon]

The disco sign is a crap example, seeing as it only cost 15 credits anyway. Jade Dragon on the other hand was a 25-credit normal rare, and has been released in rares, and in a bundle (the bundle isn't a section is it?????), if anything you should make a promotion section for the Lasers, Payday+, HC and Bundle Rares.

[-:Undertaker:-]

The price does not matter, the Disco Sign cannot be swept out of your way just because it disproves what you are trying to do. The Disco Sign is the same as the Jade Dragon Lamp - a former Rare released in another section, and then moved to miscellaneous due to that release.

[Ajthedragon]

The Disco sign isn't the same as the Jade Dragon lamp, in it's case it was released INDIVIDUALLY for Traxfactor under the executive range. Where as the Jade Dragon wasn't released individually and could only be bought along with other crap which happened to be Asian, it doesn't make the rare Asian at all, it should have been left, alike other rares (petal patch, ect) it was released twice, it just happened to be with a load of ****e.

[-:Undertaker:-]

The Petal Patch was released on its own in Rares, the Jade Dragon Lamp was not. It does not matter whether it was released with other items, it was released under a different section meaning it cannot be a normal rare again until it is released again under Rares/Collectables.

[ashyboy999]

hmm i just think jade dragon was fine where it was, i would say all normal rare posters including the disco should be with all the other posters, keep them together make the layout of the values simple rather than the same types of rare scattered all over the place. jade drag in a way now looks like the odd one out in asian. we will as traders always treat it as a normal rare regardless of what the pages say.

the thing im trying to get across is why end up having 5 different sections each with a dragon or whatever when keeping them together is far more simpler for others. the rares section dosent exist and collectables are not recolours so what were gonna have is a promotional section rather than normal rares because in this view normal rares wont exist soon.

what if you keep it with its 4 counterparts on normal rares but put in the desc "this was re-released as part of an asian deal" that works. i think the problem with aj is he thinks this degrades the dragon and i can understand that completely but my concern is wont doing this on a large scale mess up the order of everything. i dont know how taking out different normal rares and spreading them all over categorized makes it simpler for people who just want to go on here to find out how much these rares are. it would be a right nuisance to have to get 5 dragon values from 5 different areas on the values??

EDIT: actually i take that back wacky weekends wont change much of the normal rares, look at the deals they seem pretty....pathetic? a good word to use??

[-:Undertaker:-]

It was not Habboxs' choice to release the Jade Dragon Lamp, as far as we are concerned we will continue following the policy that Habbox has always followed, that; a rare is placed in the section where it was last released in. The Jade Dragon Lamp is not exempt from this rule, and no rare will be.

A Promotional section will appear one day, but again this is out of our hands as a Rare Values Department and we'll continue placing rares where they were last released in, which fits with the policy we've followed for years.

[Ajthedragon]

hmm i just think jade dragon was fine where it was, i would say all normal rare posters including the disco should be with all the other posters, keep them together make the layout of the values simple rather than the same types of rare scattered all over the place. jade drag in a way now looks like the odd one out in asian. we will as traders always treat it as a normal rare regardless of what the pages say.

the thing im trying to get across is why end up having 5 different sections each with a dragon or whatever when keeping them together is far more simpler for others. the rares section dosent exist and collectables are not recolours so what were gonna have is a promotional section rather than normal rares because in this view normal rares wont exist soon.

what if you keep it with its 4 counterparts on normal rares but put in the desc "this was re-released as part of an asian deal" that works. i think the problem with aj is he thinks this degrades the dragon and i can understand that completely but my concern is wont doing this on a large scale mess up the order of everything. i dont know how taking out different normal rares and spreading them all over categorized makes it simpler for people who just want to go on here to find out how much these rares are. it would be a right nuisance to have to get 5 dragon values from 5 different areas on the values??

EDIT: actually i take that back wacky weekends wont change much of the normal rares, look at the deals they seem pretty....pathetic? a good word to use??

The fact it's just so wrong is whats annoying me.

[mlp16]

habbox rare values are always wrong anyway, Yeah i know its a guide, but we all know it influences the hotel on a large scale. And we also know it is very hard to overcome what Habbox has built its reputation on, Even if it has had slip ups *Cough* Samovars, Holos.

Tbh I think Habbox RVR department make half the values up anyway, Anyone who says they don't are obviously lying but lets not get into that shall we?

If habbox want Users want all the rare values on one page click the All values Tab. I know it sucks but when they have some Persistant Team members, It's life.

I do however like the new super layout which should have been brought in ages ago with everything valued in HC.

[Ajthedragon]

habbox rare values are always wrong anyway, Yeah i know its a guide, but we all know it influences the hotel on a large scale. And we also know it is very hard to overcome what Habbox has built its reputation on, Even if it has had slip ups *Cough* Samovars, Holos.

Tbh I think Habbox RVR department make half the values up anyway, Anyone who says they don't are obviously lying but lets not get into that shall we?

If habbox want Users want all the rare values on one page click the All values Tab. I know it sucks but when they have some Persistant Team members, It's life.

I do however like the new super layout which should have been brought in ages ago with everything valued in HC.

In some cases I agree, such as even now Red Dragons sell 2 hc per (and always had!?) and yet they're still 2.3. :rolleyes:

[-:Undertaker:-]

habbox rare values are always wrong anyway, Yeah i know its a guide, but we all know it influences the hotel on a large scale. And we also know it is very hard to overcome what Habbox has built its reputation on, Even if it has had slip ups *Cough* Samovars, Holos.

Tbh I think Habbox RVR department make half the values up anyway, Anyone who says they don't are obviously lying but lets not get into that shall we?

If habbox want Users want all the rare values on one page click the All values Tab. I know it sucks but when they have some Persistant Team members, It's life.

I do however like the new super layout which should have been brought in ages ago with everything valued in HC.

The Samovar Saga was, I believe and know, a failure of then-senior management at that time and Habbox had no intentions to create that sort of fiasco intentionally, while I believe the blame was unfairly put on me and members of my team at that time, nobody intentionally wished to create that and nobody could of guessed what it led to, and the panic it caused.

In some cases I agree, such as even now Red Dragons sell 2 hc per (and always had!?) and yet they're still 2.3. :rolleyes:

You know as well as I do that values will never be spot on, I know you are trying to ride a wave of hostility against the Rare Values Department, maybe because you think it will give you a higher standing on the forum so those who distrust the department will rally around you, or maybe somebody in the department has annoyed you - its anyones guess.

We are sticking to the policy we have stuck by for the past 4+ years and we will sometimes get values wrong and even then people will still disagree with them.