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    When I went on the Eurostar I beeped when I walked through the metal detector.
    Then this really ugly (probably lesbian) woman groped me and touched certain areas a little too much.
    So I'm all for the "Naked scanner". At least no-one is touching you.




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    I agree with Jordy, if we went there they would think we would have a bong on us. lol. or carrying a map case .

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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    I have said I agree with scanning, but not scanning such as this, not large government databases with our information on, not CCTV everywhere and not government having the power to spy on people without any reason, by using terrorism laws.
    this is the kind of world we live in

    since when has databases and CCTV have something to do with naked scanners?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardemax View Post
    this is the kind of world we live in

    since when has databases and CCTV have something to do with naked scanners?
    It is not the kind of world we live in, the Peoples Republic of China isn't this bad in terms of CCTV-culture, so we surely have something seriously wrong if we, with a population of 60 million people have something like twice as many CCTV cameras than a country with a population of 1.3 billion.

    It is part of CCTV-culture, its a step too far.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    It is not the kind of world we live in, the Peoples Republic of China isn't this bad in terms of CCTV-culture, so we surely have something seriously wrong if we, with a population of 60 million people have something like twice as many CCTV cameras than a country with a population of 1.3 billion.

    It is part of CCTV-culture, its a step too far.
    They also have a population full of informers, corrupt police force and the death sentence for over 60 crimes. That's enough to keep their population under control, it works for them, CCTV works for us. They also have a much lower GDP (per capita) than us, so it's unrealistic for them to be able to afford the vast amount of CCTV cameras we have in this country.
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    i saw this being set up, very good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordy View Post
    They also have a population full of informers, corrupt police force and the death sentence for over 60 crimes. That's enough to keep their population under control, it works for them, CCTV works for us. They also have a much lower GDP (per capita) than us, so it's unrealistic for them to be able to afford the vast amount of CCTV cameras we have in this country.
    CCTV does not work for us, the statistics I read a while ago said something like for every 1,000 cameras, only one crime is solved a year. That money would far be better spent (operating and installing the CCTV) on more police, getting police on the streets.

    China has money, we do not. The Chinese population might not be rich, but the government is pretty well off from the impression I get and the US government and the UK government owe them billions in debts, they could bankrupt us at any given time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    CCTV does not work for us, the statistics I read a while ago said something like for every 1,000 cameras, only one crime is solved a year. That money would far be better spent (operating and installing the CCTV) on more police, getting police on the streets.

    China has money, we do not. The Chinese population might not be rich, but the government is pretty well off from the impression I get and the US government and the UK government owe them billions in debts, they could bankrupt us at any given time.
    You're forgetting CCTV also acts as a deterrent, statistics can't really prove that seeing as it's difficult to count the people who are deterred by people committing crime infront of CCTV Cameras.

    China is not that rich considering it's population, it's much richer than our island but then again we have a much smaller land mass and population. It certainly can't afford to have CCTV everywhere and anyway, China is irrelevant. So what if it's vaguely communist, using CCTV cameras doesn't make us communist because at the end of the day this is still a democracy. And it seems communist countries don't use CCTV cameras anyway. You really do seem to be confused with your forms of government as Alex keeps saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordy View Post
    You're forgetting CCTV also acts as a deterrent, statistics can't really prove that seeing as it's difficult to count the people who are deterred by people committing crime infront of CCTV Cameras.

    China is not that rich considering it's population, it's much richer than our island but then again we have a much smaller land mass and population. It certainly can't afford to have CCTV everywhere and anyway, China is irrelevant. So what if it's vaguely communist, using CCTV cameras doesn't make us communist because at the end of the day this is still a democracy. And it seems communist countries don't use CCTV cameras anyway. You really do seem to be confused with your forms of government as Alex keeps saying.
    You know as well as I do that communist governments most of all fear their own people, hence why they are dictatorships. This country does not need this level of cameras - crime has not drastically fallen since CCTV was introduced, so that proves they do not work.

    If we are a democracy, why does this government treat us all like criminals.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    You know as well as I do that communist governments most of all fear their own people, hence why they are dictatorships. This country does not need this level of cameras - crime has not drastically fallen since CCTV was introduced, so that proves they do not work.

    If we are a democracy, why does this government treat us all like criminals.
    They do not treat us like criminals. I don't feel that I'm a criminal because of CCTV, Databases and so on. I know why we have them and they are for good reasons. At least our Police force isn't going in kidnapping people for no reasons what so ever and beating them to death. There is nothing wrong with the CCTV, scanners, and records and so on.


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