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View Poll Results: Do you think the British people should get a say on the Lisbon Treaty?

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    The EU does have some barmy rules. One I can think of effects the amount of fish we can capture in our seas - fish isn't a rare comodity in some parts of the UK, but EU fishing regulations limit the amount the UK can fish which puts alot of fishermen out of the job because the rules go for the country in whole, rather than each individual fishery etc. That's what I remember hearing at least, could of changed though. The EU was a good idea when it first appeared (EC and EEC/ECC), but when it turned into the EU it became hungry for power, which may or may not have effected countries any differently (they would at least be a bit unique )

    When France had the franc for example, going to France wasn't too expensive, but when the Euro came about things became noticeably more expensive...

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    I would have liked to have seen a British EU President. Lets face it, Blaire is an ass, but I think I'd rather have him as 'President' rather than some French/German pig who won't listen to what the UK has to say.

    I also do not want to be ruled by a French/German lead government (which is what it basically is, don't deny it) and a French ******* (Nikolas Sarkozy) who is in a relationship with an ex-stripper.
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    the president has no power. it's just a figurehead, a talker.

    the euro is only strong against the pound atm because of the devalued pound. it was at one point £1=€1.70

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexxxxx View Post
    the president has no power. it's just a figurehead, a talker.

    the euro is only strong against the pound atm because of the devalued pound. it was at one point £1=€1.70
    European Union leaders and those who support this federalist project are terrified of public opinion, its a complete sham. The EU may say its not heading for a superstate, but its clear we are. German and French leaders want it, Peter Mandelson and a lot of Labour want it and the EU want it. It can be seen clearly with the threats Mr Klaus was given by EU leaders and the way him and Mr Cameron have been treated by EU leaders.

    We were also told by Labour that we would be given a referendum yet we were lied to. We were also told that the EEC would never become a European Union, a superstate - also a lie.

    ..so you'll understand if nobody believes you and the EU when you say the President will have no real power.
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    Blair being president will be of little benefit to us; his number 1 priority is kissing ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    ..so you'll understand if nobody believes you and the EU when you say the President will have no real power.
    well this is written in a treaty. a legally binding treaty. there would have to be another treaty for the pres to have some power and I can't see another treaty passing where a single president gets powers above member states and rightfully so, because that would be way too far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexxxxx View Post
    well this is written in a treaty. a legally binding treaty. there would have to be another treaty for the pres to have some power and I can't see another treaty passing where a single president gets powers above member states and rightfully so, because that would be way too far.
    As that MEP says, it isn't a treaty. It is a document with amendments to thousands of other laws and regulations, it isn't a treaty. The European Union does have power over member states, and that is too far. I saw on the news the other day the EU commission had 'approved' something to do with splitting Northern Rock - sorry, but since when did unelected officals gain the right to decide how our country is run?


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    As that MEP says, it isn't a treaty. It is a document with amendments to thousands of other laws and regulations, it isn't a treaty. The European Union does have power over member states, and that is too far. I saw on the news the other day the EU commission had 'approved' something to do with splitting Northern Rock - sorry, but since when did unelected officals gain the right to decide how our country is run?
    because of our membership of the single market, we have to abide by market rules regarding takeovers, splits and the like. It's to stop unfair amounts of state aid or subsidy which damages other member states' business. :eusa_wall

    do you think it would be unfair if the german government were to give toyota alot of money to build their cars there, instead of the UK? i do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexxxxx View Post
    because of our membership of the single market, we have to abide by market rules regarding takeovers, splits and the like. It's to stop unfair amounts of state aid or subsidy which damages other member states' business. :eusa_wall

    do you think it would be unfair if the german government were to give toyota alot of money to build their cars there, instead of the UK? i do.
    No, as thats Germany catering for its own people as we should be doing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    No, as thats Germany catering for its own people as we should be doing.
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