View Poll Results: Which charity category would you back this christmas?

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  • Poverty

    37 11.90%
  • Water

    13 4.18%
  • Hunger

    11 3.54%
  • Animal

    42 13.50%
  • Children & Youth

    46 14.79%
  • Military

    34 10.93%
  • Medical Research

    23 7.40%
  • Hospitals

    6 1.93%
  • Disabilities (including deaf, blind etc)

    13 4.18%
  • Medical Welfare (Cancer Support etc)

    39 12.54%
  • Aged

    9 2.89%
  • Environment

    8 2.57%
  • Mental health

    13 4.18%
  • Voluntary Services

    5 1.61%
  • Other

    12 3.86%
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    Quote Originally Posted by 00chips View Post
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    How would you feel if a race of aliens enslaved the human race and made you work as a bomb disposal unit because you were not as smart as the aliens?
    That's how life goes.

    Humans, as of now, are the most important species on the planet, you can't argue - it's a fact. I'm not saying I want animals to just die, I love animals, i'm just saying that I would personally put humans ahead of animals. I mean seriously, which death would you be most bothered about, your friend or your pet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 00chips View Post
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    How would you feel if a race of aliens enslaved the human race and made you work as a bomb disposal unit because you were not as smart as the aliens?
    First off congratulations on calling me an idiot on a subject something I'm right about. Secondly it's not about not being as smart, it's the fact that animals literally CANNOT process pain the way we do - we understand it and are affected mentally as well as physically, whereas animals can only react to instincts and only show alarm because as living things they have a survival instinct. Take a cat to the vet for a jab and it'll try getting away and scratch about because it feels pain, but it doesn't know that it's doing it any good and in 2 minutes when the pain's gone it acts like nothing ever happened
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    First off congratulations on calling me an idiot on a subject something I'm right about. Secondly it's not about not being as smart, it's the fact that animals literally CANNOT process pain the way we do - we understand it and are affected mentally as well as physically, whereas animals can only react to instincts and only show alarm because as living things they have a survival instinct. Take a cat to the vet for a jab and it'll try getting away and scratch about because it feels pain, but it doesn't know that it's doing it any good and in 2 minutes when the pain's gone it acts like nothing ever happened
    That's not the point though. I'll put it this way, would you support an alien race that feels pain and views the world in a superior way to us in the process of killing us?
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    If it was comparable to the difference between humans and non-sentient animals then yeah because we wouldn't even know
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    If it was comparable to the difference between humans and non-sentient animals then yeah because we wouldn't even know
    Do you really believe that or are you just being stubborn and trying to prove your point because you have no where else to go?
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    No I truly believe that - if we don't have any way of understanding that we're being disadvantaged then it can't really be a disadvantage. It's difficult to think of an example because obviously if I came up with one then it'd be something we do understand, us being a sentient race. The only thing I can think of that might possibly cover it is if we're all an experiment of some divine creator (or group of creators) and they control us entirely, even down to me typing this right now. I don't know about it and there's no way I can understand it entirely so if that were the case it wouldn't be a problem
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    No I truly believe that - if we don't have any way of understanding that we're being disadvantaged then it can't really be a disadvantage. It's difficult to think of an example because obviously if I came up with one then it'd be something we do understand, us being a sentient race. The only thing I can think of that might possibly cover it is if we're all an experiment of some divine creator (or group of creators) and they control us entirely, even down to me typing this right now. I don't know about it and there's no way I can understand it entirely so if that were the case it wouldn't be a problem
    You would support your own death for that reason?
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    Obviously I wouldn't support it because I wouldn't know about it, which is the main point
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    HOSPITALS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    THEY HELP MILLIONS OF PEOPLE AND NO1 EVER AYS THANKS

    WHICH AINT FAIR

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    Quote Originally Posted by 22andy223 View Post
    HOSPITALS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    THEY HELP MILLIONS OF PEOPLE AND NO1 EVER AYS THANKS

    WHICH AINT FAIR
    Although that is true, Hospitals are not a charity and they are not ran by volunteers. They are simply doing their job and as tax payers we contribute to the cost of hospitals, building them, buying equipment, paying for staff etc. Of course it's always good manners to be polite to everyone, particularly if they've helped you. However I don't think it's criminal to not say thank you.

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