The BNP - Good or Bad?

[Ardemax]

Yes, because if you look into the European Union and the Soviet Union you would find that both are unelected, with a parliament with no powers and both were forced on the people of Europe by eliteists.

No you did imply that with your sentence, ok to make it clear then; do you think somebody should be able to deny the holocaust?

No, I don't think anyone should deny the holocast. There's so much proof it happened, the stories told from veterans, the actual written proof etc.

Ardemax, DAN ISN'T SAYING THE HOLOCAUST DIDN'T HAPPEN. :eusa_wall

HOWEVER THAT ***** AT THE BNP IS ALLOWED TO BELIEVE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN IF HE WANTS.

I didn't say he denied the holocaust? Don't go on a hissy!!!!

btw I don't understand your second sentence with the asterix's

[Black_Apalachi]

Well why do you keep asking the same questions then? He's said about 7 times that freedom of speech means one is allowed to deny it.

The second part was about Nick Griffin.

[Ardemax]

Surely if you deny it, your status towards countries like France, Germany, Poland etc. would be seen as racist? Or maybe discrimination?

I'm not saying you deny it, but people like Nick Griffin who denied it.

[Black_Apalachi]

Well that's why you have to decide whether you accept freedom of speech or not. I don't know whether those countries accept it the same way we do in the UK, but they can't claim to accept it and then complain as soon as you say something they disagree with, for reasons stated by Dan above.

[Ardemax]

let's be honest, the holocaust doesn't occur often...

so surely some countries have the right to control whether the denial of it should be allowed or not.

[-:Undertaker:-]

No, I don't think anyone should deny the holocast. There's so much proof it happened, the stories told from veterans, the actual written proof etc.

I didn't say he denied the holocaust? Don't go on a hissy!!!!

btw I don't understand your second sentence with the asterix's

I am not asking whether it occured or not, I believe it happened aswell as you obviously do. I am asking whether or not you think people should be allowed to say (freedom of speech) whether or not they believe it happened or not.

let's be honest, the holocaust doesn't occur often...

so surely some countries have the right to control whether the denial of it should be allowed or not.

That's called a dictatorship hunny.

[Ardemax]

I am not asking whether it occured or not, I believe it happened aswell as you obviously do. I am asking whether or not you think people should be allowed to say (freedom of speech) whether or not they believe it happened or not.

as in to actually say it infront of other people because they don't think it happened?
ill refer back to my other post, the holocaust doesn't occur often and just the absolute shock and horrific events that happened in it that were so dreadful lead me to believe that they shouldn't be forgotten and certainly not denied.

[-:Undertaker:-]

as in to actually say it infront of other people because they don't think it happened?
ill refer back to my other post, the holocaust doesn't occur often and just the absolute shock and horrific events that happened in it that were so dreadful lead me to believe that they shouldn't be forgotten and certainly not denied.

..then that quite simply means that you do not value freedom of speech just as Hitler didn't and that an opinion that is different to yours, in your opinion, should be banned/not permitted.

[Ardemax]

..then that quite simply means that you do not value freedom of speech just as Hitler didn't and that an opinion that is different to yours, in your opinion, should be banned/not permitted.

you've said the same thing you did in the last post and if you read properly you will know im not the same as Adolf Hitler and feel quite offended that you compared me to Hitler

[-:Undertaker:-]

you've said the same thing you did in the last post and if you read properly you will know im not the same as Adolf Hitler and feel quite offended that you compared me to Hitler

You do not value democracy, you have admitted yourself that an opinion that is different to yours, one which you do not agree with, should be banned. That is wrong.