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    Games that built the industry that still hold par on today with their revamped franchises.
    (i.e - Zelda > Zelda : Twilight Princess)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neversoft View Post
    They are arcade games that aren't made to keep you interested. I think Paul is talking more about games such as Super Mario Bros, the original Sonic games and other NES/SNES classics.
    They're to keep you entertained, entertainment isn't gained through repetitive games, not to mention I wasn't answering Paul, although you did just mention a couple more games that I get bored of fast, the original Mario games were fun for some period of time but the new ones are lame, same as Sonic but I never really got into the original sonic games, basically the only levels I ever played where the green hills ones and couldn't bare to continue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    They're to keep you entertained, entertainment isn't gained through repetitive games, not to mention I wasn't answering Paul, although you did just mention a couple more games that I get bored of fast, the original Mario games were fun for some period of time but the new ones are lame, same as Sonic but I never really got into the original sonic games, basically the only levels I ever played where the green hills ones and couldn't bare to continue.
    You quoted Wise and Wise quoted Paul so I was just going back to the source. Also, are you aware that the likes of Tetris and Pac-man are among some of the most popular games ever created. If they are repetitive and entertainment isn't gained through repetition then why are they up there? It's just a matter of preference whether you like them or not, but if you think about it video games still use the same conventions as they did back in the day. Sure they have expanded a lot, but it is still the same thing. The original Zelda can be compared to a more recent game like Shadow of the Colossus without any trouble, and Halo can be compared to Super Metroid on the SNES rather easily. Super Mario Bros can even be compared to Grand Theft Auto. Granted there is a lot more to do in GTA, but in Super Mario Bros you're always doing roughly the same thing, only the level changes, just like the missions in GTA. If classic games are repetitive, then so are todays games. It's really only the graphics that have improved, a lot of the gameplay is still the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neversoft View Post
    You quoted Wise and Wise quoted Paul so I was just going back to the source. Also, are you aware that the likes of Tetris and Pac-man are among some of the most popular games ever created. If they are repetitive and entertainment isn't gained through repetition then why are they up there? It's just a matter of preference whether you like them or not, but if you think about it video games still use the same conventions as they did back in the day. Sure they have expanded a lot, but it is still the same thing. The original Zelda can be compared to a more recent game like Shadow of the Colossus without any trouble, and Halo can be compared to Super Metroid on the SNES rather easily. Super Mario Bros can even be compared to Grand Theft Auto. Granted there is a lot more to do in GTA, but in Super Mario Bros you're always doing roughly the same thing, only the level changes, just like the missions in GTA. If classic games are repetitive, then so are todays games. It's really only the graphics that have improved, a lot of the gameplay is still the same.
    But I was quoting what Wise said, not what Paul said. :S

    And of course everything is still the same but what draws you to a game is how it is played, Halo 3 and Resistance are both built in similar ways to result in different games that use the FPS mechanic but how the game plays, what you do within the game is what makes it fun, if you're playing a very basic FPS like Doom, but instead of the way Doom was designed, the developers decide to use more of a quest based system and made pretty much every quest "go here collect this" and the monsters were just obstacles then it would become very boring very quickly, purely based on the fact your brain tells you that despite visually that you're doing is different every time it's also saying "well really every quest is to move from one location to another to pick up a different game model", most people playing games only really pay attention to the visuals, even when they know they're doing the same thing over and over again, which is why games sell, every game within each genre is basically the same as every other game of the same genre apart from the textures, models, audio and objectives.

    Also Tetris, Pacman etc. are very popular because the objectives are simple and accessible to anyone that feels like playing, doesn't mean they don't get bored it's just those games have no specific audience and can appeal to anyone that feels like playing them, like Snake.

    Edit - Also obviously it comes down to preference as well, some people enjoy those sort of games but at the end of the day the popularity is down to them being simple and easy to get used too, not much else.

    Edit Again - Also the point I didn't really get across in that huge paragraph, or it you just didn't wanna read that, if a game reuses the same "objective" then it will get boring but remain simple to hold onto a large audience, if a game expands the objectives, like GTA4 then the audience isn't as big, although still big due to the fan base but that doesn't matter.
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    Missed off DRIVER and Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1 & 2, better than the modern day motion sensing crep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jameseh View Post
    Missed off DRIVER and Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1 & 2, better than the modern day motion sensing crep.
    The best game ever Well not really, but Driver: Parallel Lines is really fun :0
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    10-Peggle - 360
    9-Worms: Armaggedon - PS1
    8-Pokemon: Yellow - Gameboy Colour
    7-Grand Theft Auto: San Adreas - PS2
    6-Hitman: Blood Money - PS2 & 360
    5-Grand Theft Auto: Vice City - PS2
    4-CoD4: MW - 360
    3-Skate 2 - 360
    2-GTA: IV - 360
    1-Road Rash - PS1

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    1. The warriors PS2
    2. Crackdown 360
    3. GOW 360 ( with friends )
    4. Fifa Series.
    5. Shadow of the colossus ps2, amazing game, great landscape.
    6. HErcules ps1
    7. Metal Gear SOlid series
    8. Ratchet and clank series


    Thats all i can think of.
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    1. Super Mario 64
    2. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (N64)
    3. Lylat Wars (N64)
    4. Mario Kart 64
    5. Gears of War (first one obv)
    6. Halo 2 (purely for the multiplayer) (xbox)
    7. Star Wars: Rogue Leader (GC)
    8. Pokemon Silver
    9. Banjo & Kazooie (N64)
    10. GTA: Vice City (ps2)

    I like my retro games tbh.

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    10 is a big number but i'll try.

    10. Hogs of war (ps1)
    9. Pandomonia (i think thats how you spell it for ps1)
    8. Tony hawks for the ps2
    7. All pokemons from EVAAAA.
    6. Super smash brothers brawl (1st one, game cube)
    5. Need for speed (ones from the ps2 forgot the sub title thing)
    4. Rachet & Clank (1st 3, ps2)
    3. Cod WaW
    2. Cod Mw2
    1. Team buddies (that game... with friends... when i was young was ******* kick ass, its the best game rated 18 for the ps1 in the world. The chance of you finding it in a game store now is low but i think ebay has it for like 50 pound LOL. Its just plain ******* awesome.)

    2 videos to show how awesome team buddies is:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BxmUWyqVhY - the intro with not much funniness except it was an 18 game with mighty beans.

    k 3 ones cause i found this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qzUe...eature=related

    game play: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6LKH...eature=related



    it made me laugh so much because of what they use to say when you shot each other. i forgot exactly what they use to say but one was a scottish person going "al **** ya dawwwterrr if ya do that again" something along those lines. ardemax might know he has it LOL

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