Don't increase post count in Welcome forum

[Hecktix]

If people post in the welcome forum for their post count (which as a moderator I believe is the case, because the amount of people who post in numerous threads at a time with the same message is stupid), they do also have the intention of welcoming the users however if we stop them from doing this, then they'll post elsewhere for their post count (even short posts would still benefit other areas of the forum moreso than the welcome forum).

Can I just add, the post count doesnt increase in the "Congratulations" forum either

[FlyingJesus]

..and now I realise that decisions like that have only harmed the forum and Habbox itself.

Getting rid of the post count in forum games killed the forum? I think the fact that the area is as good as dead now shows that we were right to suggest that people only frequented the area for the sake of raising a few hundred on the post count (despite what they said at the time) and if you're going to use total posts as a measure of good forum activity you're looking in quite the wrong place. Would you rather have 20 messages of Hi! Welcome to the forum or 5 in actual discussion threads which can prompt far more posts after? It truly is about quality and not quantity, which is where many many people are going wrong in their suggestions of what the forum needs to do.

[Seatherny]

Also I think the Habbox Management team should post more often, especially in these discussions. Its good to see FM's and a smod posting though.

[Black_Apalachi]

It's allowed as an opinion and of course many people don't care about post count other than perhaps as a way of getting to a higher userrank and getting better rewards from that, but that's not the singular view across the forum and especially in the Habbo sections and possibly other areas frequented by the younger and newer members post count is seen as some degree of authority. That's why it's an issue now, why it's been an issue in the past and why it will always be an issue in some way, especially when people can (and certainly have in the past) abuse that illusion of authority.




Oh?



Dan you even replied to that post, so don't come up trying to tell people it's never been an issue when you've been around long enough to know it has been.

OK, one person has brought it up in the past then? Big deal. It's still not a major issue that is causing any problems.

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If people post in the welcome forum for their post count (which as a moderator I believe is the case, because the amount of people who post in numerous threads at a time with the same message is stupid), they do also have the intention of welcoming the users however if we stop them from doing this, then they'll post elsewhere for their post count (even short posts would still benefit other areas of the forum moreso than the welcome forum).

Can I just add, the post count doesnt increase in the "Congratulations" forum either

How is welcoming new users any less beneficial than posting some piece of crap one-liner in other threads where proper discussions are taking place? :S

Is the Congratulations forum always been or has it just been changed? And has this already been changed as well?

[Seatherny]

OK, one person has brought it up in the past then? Big deal. It's still not a major issue that is causing any problems.

I have been on this forum for several years now and have seen it brought up many times.

[Hecktix]

Also I think the Habbox Management team should post more often, especially in these discussions. Its good to see FM's and a smod posting though.

Agree here, I was thinking just earlier how good it is to see a bright green name in the form of infrequent in the "General" category often participating in discussions. Jin is busy atm doing everybody's jobs, nvr is here but not here.
I think that if we have any management that don't want to be here, they should go and let us find someone that will be active and decisive in their actions.

OK, one person has brought it up in the past then? Big deal. It's still not a major issue that is causing any problems.

If my theory of it making people post elsewhere on the forum is correct, even if the posts are short and simple, I'd rather have short and simple posts in Discuss Anything than Welcome forum as it sparks more discussion but as I was saying if this is correct, then it'd be hugely beneficial to the forum therefore we could look at this as not causing problems but a way of improving forum activity.

[FlyingJesus]

It's been a part of a fair few discussions outside of feedback, quite a few times in spam there have been threads about it that I can recall and at a time when we're apparently trying to iron out the kinks to help the forum get more active again not being a "major" issue shouldn't make it a redundant one.

[Hecktix]

@ Rob, congrats forum has always been this way.

And yes, "pointless" one liners are more beneficial.

I'd rather have half-hearted comments added to discussions than "HI WELCOME TO THE FORUM". Even if it's just people adding to discussions "Oh I agree with this", its a lot more beneficial to the discussions and would be keeping the forum active.

[-:Undertaker:-]

That to me suggests that anyone who disagrees with you lacks common sense.

Well i'd certainly argue that with this thread, common sense over this issue at least anyway. If the forum is in decline you do not go cutting posting. If you have a welcome forum you do not go around imposing regulations which put people off doing the exact thing that forum is designed for, saying hello.

I think someone mentioned something about the RVR Desk being empty. I am sorry but I don't think its ever really been popular? Its a useless idea and should have never been implemented. If people want rare values they can go to habbox.com :rolleyes: or if they need help then use HxHD and make one desk popular.

Actually when I owned it back in 2006/2007 I never even had to try and get it popular, Habbox has such a following that is was full 24/7 and i'm not even making that up, it really was so successful. The desk is not useless, nobody knows the rare values team anymore, people are losing interest in rare values - that is why it exists and that is the reason we brought it back.

Posting "Welcome to the forum" is not creating a proper discussion? :S

The Welcome Forum is not the place for a full on discussion.

The reason why this forum is less active now is because people like MAD have driven them away. I left because of him (and he banned so many) and when I found out he resigned, I came back. I had PM'ed and posted many times saying MAD needs to be fired but no one listened.

He banned me. I tried and tried with others to get this place to change and eventually it did, thats why i'm back on. The proposal here is a type of policy that 8Freak8 or ---MAD--- would want to impose, a pointless and uneeded rule which only causes trouble and creates a problem rather than solving it.

Its the GMs like him who have ruined habboxforum. Honestly, nvrspk4 isnt that great either. We need a more relaxed (rules wise etc) GM who also contributes alot in discussions like Seacat and JackHb used to do.

Nvrspk4 is fine as General Manager and the same with :Jin: as acting General Manager and the reason we are not talking about them all the time is because they are doing their job properly, they are not interferring in everything as was done in the past and is trying to be done here.

A welcome forum = to say welcome in.

[Seatherny]

Well i'd certainly argue that with this thread, common sense over this issue at least anyway. If the forum is in decline you do not go cutting posting. If you have a welcome forum you do not go around imposing regulations which put people off doing the exact thing that forum is designed for, saying hello.

But we aren't stopping them from saying Hello? They can still say hello if they want to. People mass post in the Welcome forum ONLY to get their post count up. If that way was no longer possible for them, they would have to revert to proper discussions, hence benefiting the forum.

Actually when I owned it back in 2006/2007 I never even had to try and get it popular, Habbox has such a following that is was full 24/7 and i'm not even making that up, it really was so successful. The desk is not useless, nobody knows the rare values team anymore, people are losing interest in rare values - that is why it exists and that is the reason we brought it back.

The new Habbo generation is different. I remember when I was RVR staff around that time, and I know for a fact that the room was not popular. Many things have been tried to get it popular but nothings worked.

Nvrspk4 is fine as General Manager and the same with :Jin: as acting General Manager and the reason we are not talking about them all the time is because they are doing their job properly, they are not interferring in everything as was done in the past and is trying to be done here.

nvrspk4 was crap before, maybe he is better now, if he is then thats great. Jin is bloody awesome, anyone who flames him is an idiot. Simple as.