Don't increase post count in Welcome forum

[Hecktix]

What new policy? Tbh this isn't the first time I've heard people in the moderation department say "ooh we've been told to do things differently" or "there's a new policy which means we will/won't edit for xyz" and tbh its confusing the hell out of me! if there's a big enough policy change that will affect the way the forum is moderated, shouldn't it be announced so everyone knows what it is? Because atm we're seeing wildy inconsistent moderating (as evidenced by some of the threads in this forum) and lots of secret BTS policy changes and nothing make sense and my brain hurts

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The new things we have decided will only affect the forum as and when they happen. For instance, we don't need to announce that we're not going to close threads that are ruined by a couple of members arguing etc, that can just be made apparent when it happens.

As for allowing arguments and heated discussions, again, this can be seen when it happens.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...33#post6174733

Perfect example of a thread that may have got closed under previous moderation policies...

[FlyingJesus]

How? How exactly is killing one part of the forum introducing them to other parts of the forum?

Well clearly if you can't get your post count up in one area, those who are posting for a post count will have to do it elsewhere. This includes new members who need the 5 posts.

No it won't, if they want to use different parts of the forum they will. Why would they immediately sit and rot in the Welcome Forum not taking any notice of the other forums all because of a post count? You can pointless post under the radar in other forums? And surely removing the post count would make people not post in a welcome forum, therefore suggesting you don't want to be welcoming?

Would rather have a couple of sincere welcome posts than a page full of what typically gets posted there tbh, and going into the welcome area to see every thread in the last three days last replied to by the same person just looks so false.

I wouldn't judge someone on the amount of posts they have, but on what their posts consist of. Maybe that's just me though. Giving two contrasting examples, someone like you, as well as many others on this forum, has a lot of posts, yet most of the time, from what I've seen, you obviously put some effort into the posts, and the end result is a respectable post. But some others, I won't name and shame people, have a hell of a lot of posts too, but with that, the content of their posts are quite awful, and are usually badly thought out, extremely short posts.

I agree entirely, I don't judge people on their post counts because I know that everyone from time to time makes really crap posts and a lot of people with not many have brought up good points in the past, but especially for younger members it is something that matters. Can't say much about recent times because I don't use the Habbo sections now, but back in the day I remember plenty of cross-game trade threads (such as Habbo for Runescape or whatever) saying "you go first unless you're well known as I have a larger post count", and there was a fair bit of scamming trouble that stemmed from it, especially when that Kyle kid started trying to buy all the big accounts off people. Sad perhaps but that's how it goes unfortunately.

[-:Undertaker:-]

So why is post count a big deal? And from what I'm reading in the Welcome forums, none of the posts are spam so far - they're all on topic, welcoming and welcoming back members. This just seems like a typical "HxF members do not know what words mean" discussion, that's two words vitally needed for the HxF Dictionary; Spam and Argument

The thing/s that are being ignored blindly are;

• Why do they care if people are working for a high post count?
• You cannot 'make' somebody post in another part of the forum.
• The welcome forum is for saying welcome.

It seems to me the busy bodies are out and about and desperate to make some new rules/regulations, and at a time when Habbox is suffering its the most stupid and pointless thing to do. I would understand if we had people posting hello two hundred times in the same thread, but we simply don't.

I didn't read every post in this thread because it is LONG and around half way through the argument seemed to be repeating itself. It is my personal opinion that this change would achieve very little. Although I can see the reasoning behind it I don't think it will do much to increase activity in other forums if I am honest. I don't see the harm in leaving it as it is. People look for more leniency but if we cracked down hardcore on posts in that forum we would get a lot of pissed off members. It is still up for discussion though.

Thank you, common sense.
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[FlyingJesus]

The thing/s that are being ignored blindly are;

• Why do they care if people are working for a high post count?
• You cannot 'make' somebody post in another part of the forum.
• The welcome forum is for saying welcome.

All of these have been spoken about, try again.

[-:Undertaker:-]

All of these have been spoken about, try again.

None of them have been spoken about, people seem to keep going on about this magical solution that if by not having post count in the welcome forum suddenly the whole forum will become a buzz of activity - it won't happen.

[FlyingJesus]

No, they really have been spoken about, and if you're not going to take in what's written you probably shouldn't make claims.

All three in fact were covered in my post just above yours where you tried to tell us that we haven't said anything about them. No-one is saying that stopping post count in welcome threads will save the forum, but we're trying to promote good discussion rather than lazily generated posts pasted across a multitude of threads. If you'd care to perhaps not lie about what we're saying it would be much appreciated.

[Black_Apalachi]

As said before by MattGarner, the congratulations forum hasn't got post count enabled and we still get threads in there, so I guess we'd still get posts in the welcome forum, however if people wanted to increase their post count they'd have to find another way to do it.

Afterall if they then go and spam other places to boost their post count, they'll lose all the posts so it won't be beneficial in the end.

In that case, why don't we make a feedback thread called, 'Turn on post counts in the Congratulations section' because after all, a post is a post. You can't compare the two sections though, as one only sees threads created by new members while the other has threads created by older members where there mates are bound to reply. So in that respect I could understand why there are no post counts in Congratulations, but the same reasoning does not apply to Welcome.

I wouldn't judge someone on the amount of posts they have, but on what their posts consist of. Maybe that's just me though. Giving two contrasting examples, someone like you, as well as many others on this forum, has a lot of posts, yet most of the time, from what I've seen, you obviously put some effort into the posts, and the end result is a respectable post. But some others, I won't name and shame people, have a hell of a lot of posts too, but with that, the content of their posts are quite awful, and are usually badly thought out, extremely short posts.

Exactly. What is being proposed here will inevitably allow many more people to have high post counts with little or no effort put into their posts. I personally hate when serious threads are polluted with posts like that and I usually don't even bother reading them if they're by the usual people.

[StefanWolves]

One day common sense will prevail. :/

[Nixt]

What new policy? Tbh this isn't the first time I've heard people in the moderation department say "ooh we've been told to do things differently" or "there's a new policy which means we will/won't edit for xyz" and tbh its confusing the hell out of me! if there's a big enough policy change that will affect the way the forum is moderated, shouldn't it be announced so everyone knows what it is? Because atm we're seeing wildy inconsistent moderating (as evidenced by some of the threads in this forum) and lots of secret BTS policy changes and nothing make sense and my brain hurts

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I don't understand what you mean by 'wildly inconsistent' moderation... if you could explain than Matt and I will most certainly do what we can to eradicate this issue.

The changes in policy made within Moderators only do not affect the members directly - if this was the case we would of course announce it (an example being the recent change to the automatic banning system) but these are small changes to the way Moderators do things. We've just become more lenient on arguments and where we close threads. Not really something we need to announce, members will continue to post as normal but the way in which they are dealt with in some instances will be different - we are not asking the members to behave any differently so it's of no real necessity to announce it.

[-:Undertaker:-]

No, they really have been spoken about, and if you're not going to take in what's written you probably shouldn't make claims.

All three in fact were covered in my post just above yours where you tried to tell us that we haven't said anything about them. No-one is saying that stopping post count in welcome threads will save the forum, but we're trying to promote good discussion rather than lazily generated posts pasted across a multitude of threads. If you'd care to perhaps not lie about what we're saying it would be much appreciated.

This is what I mean, stopping post counts in that forum will not make people post in other areas of the forum, it will not generate anything just maybe put people off posting totally because they have always mainly strived for a higher post count.