Don't increase post count in Welcome forum

[Black_Apalachi]

Ermmm.... you are being hypocritical because you were the one who began the personal attacking and now you're just trying to make yourself out to be an innocent victim. I've fallen into these traps before and got myself into trouble so I won't be arguing with you as you have once again proven you'd rather argue off topic with me than focus on the thread topic and I have now got two -reps for essentially disagreeing with you. Good night.

... If you think that sort of thing is fine then here's a FACT*: you not being a part of this discussion would make it far more intelligent and beneficial in outcome.


*Not a fact but let's ignore that huh, after all it'd be pedantic to quibble

[FlyingJesus]

No no, that wasn't a fact remember In any case, it was only to be supposed as any sort of view, whether fact or opinion, if you really do think that stating an opinionated prediction as fact is fine. I'm sure you're not so foolish as to do that, so the view that you shouldn't take part is not one that has come to light.

Hi remember me?

I have tried to get back on topic by asking what points you feel I've missed out on but as this hasn't been addressed there is nothing for me to reply to other than your attempts at making me look a villain. I welcome all opposition as long as it's well written and of clear thought.

[Grig]

I haven't read through all the numerous pages. But this is a superb suggestion, people who just post in there for post account are just annoying and there are often the same few.

Generally something well defined should be that post count increases when there is some productive disucussion going on with views and opinions etc. and not just a simple "hello " that increases post count. I think people will still post in there, those who want new members to feel welcome and not those who just post for the hell of raising post count.

So very nice idea, I'm fully behind you on this !

[StefanWolves]

Hi remember me?

I have tried to get back on topic by asking what points you feel I've missed out on but as this hasn't been addressed there is nothing for me to reply to other than your attempts at making me look a villain. I welcome all opposition as long as it's well written and of clear thought.

May I just add my two pennies towards you please?

You have got to be the biggest immature, unpleasant, and biggest hypocrite on this forum. You flame me for giving a good idea of limiting the amount of threads guests can view, to encourage them to sign up. You told me to provide proof, which I could not do as I wouldn't know, but I provided examples of it working on other forums. Then, you have the audacity to come into this thread and support this pathetic idea, by saying 'OH YEAH, IT WILL WORK, IT MUST!! ITLL MAKE PEOPLE POST IN OTHER AREAS ON THE FORUM!!!", without having any proof? I ask you this, how can you guarantee that it'll work? PROOF please?

And if you say ''WELL WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE TRY!!'', then I'd laugh in your face.

Until you provide proof I am not buying this idea at all.

I like it now the boot is on the other foot now.

[-:Undertaker:-]

If they want that higher post count, what do you imagine they would have to do? Hint: the answer is post elsewhere.

What part of "none of us know" did you not get in his post?

They wouldn't though, Habbox Forum needs to stop acting as if the members are as loyal as glue because as proven by the recent decline thats simply not true, instead of trying to make rules/regulations for every small thing and trying to force them to post elsewhere, leave them be.

The reasons I think it might is because if they can't post there to increase their post count they will post elsewhere on the forum to get their post count up. If they bothered enough to register one would assume they want to keep posting so will try their best to make sure they get through the newly registered member stage. But thats not to say it definately will. Thats why I have reason to beleive this, just like you have reasons to beleive what you beleive. The point I was actually making is that you state your opinion like its fact, when it isn't fact. You really annoy me. Thats a fact.

I think my opinions are right most of the time yes, thats why they are my opinions and as I see them as correct, I will tend to state them as fact.

I wasn't defending any point, I was stating you shouldn't say something is fact when it isn't. I do happen to agree that removing the post count increase would be pointless, but its just the principle of saying something is fact when it isn't. Thats the point I was trying to get across.

I never said it was a fact, or didn't intend it to be. In my opinion it would hurt the forum, but as I thought we all knew how to debate properly in this forum I thought I wouldn't have to put the childish example of ""MY OPINION"" at the bottom of my every post, but obviously I do.

**MY OPINIONS!!**

[FlyingJesus]

You have got to be the biggest immature, unpleasant, and biggest hypocrite on this forum. You flame me for giving a good idea of limiting the amount of threads guests can view, to encourage them to sign up. You told me to provide proof, which I could not do as I wouldn't know, but I provided examples of it working on other forums. Then, you have the audacity to come into this thread and support this pathetic idea, by saying 'OH YEAH, IT WILL WORK, IT MUST!! ITLL MAKE PEOPLE POST IN OTHER AREAS ON THE FORUM!!!", without having any proof? I ask you this, how can you guarantee that it'll work? PROOF please?

So you haven't read what I've said at all then? The last few pages have been mostly about how there is no certainty that people will post elsewhere, so don't start putting words in my mouth as that is slander and should not be tolerated. As for proof, if you'd care to read the first post you may notice that the preferred outcome of this would be to stop people from using welcome threads in the same way they used to use forum games - that is, for the easy raising of a high post count. Taking away the post count would quite obviously do that, and the proof is in the fact that if you do not get a post count for posting there, people cannot post there for that purpose. It's really quite simple, and you needn't get angry just because I shot your idea to shreds. I've done nothing immature or hypocritical, so you may stop that sort of talk right away.

They wouldn't though, Habbox Forum needs to stop acting as if the members are as loyal as glue because as proven by the recent decline thats simply not true, instead of trying to make rules/regulations for every small thing and trying to force them to post elsewhere, leave them be.

I've stated plenty of times in this thread that I would rather see even a small number of these people posting elsewhere (as is fairly likely to happen, unless they're here solely for the welcome threads which I can't see being the case) and others leave than have a multitude of pointless posts which truly don't serve to properly welcome people - see previous posts for examples. Of course I can't possibly hope that taking away the post count in welcome threads will instantly turn all of those spamming out generic copied messages into well spoken debators, but quite clearly if they can't get their post count up there, those who are there just for the counts will have to go elsewhere to do it - or give up, which as I've said before won't be any great loss to us as that is not the sort of person we need here.

I think my opinions are right most of the time yes, thats why they are my opinions and as I see them as correct, I will tend to state them as fact.

It's entirely fair that you believe your opinions to be right, of course they wouldn't be your opinions if you didn't, but stating them as fact is bad debate etiquette whatever your intention.

I never said it was a fact, or didn't intend it to be. In my opinion it would hurt the forum, but as I thought we all knew how to debate properly in this forum I thought I wouldn't have to put the childish example of ""MY OPINION"" at the bottom of my every post, but obviously I do.

Clearly we don't all know how to debate properly if some of us are wanting to call opinions facts, Dan. It's not childish at all to say that you have an opinion, and frankly you putting things such as "WILL NOT" in bold certainly does look like you intend it to be taken as fact.