Forum going down hill?

[Nixt]

...zzz missed my contribution.

We are also looking at the creation of new skins. I think we are looking at doing them for VB4, however, because it seems pointless to create them for our current version of the software if we will, eventually, be updating .

[Immenseman]

I like the classic skin slitzzzzz nah but do make more if others don't like it, as long as it's an option still it won't bother me and can only do good

Hooray for debates coming back properly, I tried doing it as comms manager but it was collapsed before it actually happened so good to see it's actually going to be done now.

It's ugly. With regards to debates, believe it when you see it, don't believe a word they say until you see proof. They're just like the conservative party, all empty promises.

lol in all seriousness, it's good it's going to happen and if they're ran in the right way they'll get some proper responses and might even serve as a reason for people to come onto the forum

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We are also looking at the creation of new skins. I think we are looking at doing them for VB4, however, because it seems pointless to create them for our current version of the software if we will, eventually, be updating .

code it predominantly in CSS, then the transition is sleek.

that's what i did with CH, simply coded the majority of it with divs, and we'll have no trouble switching over. will take a bit of tweaking but heh.

[FlyingJesus]

Going back to presence on the hotel, logged in at about 3 and been just wandering about HxHD checking it every couple of minutes and seen literally 7 people in that time. Then I see navigator and CH, HFFM and some guys called Habbo-Sovial have got giveaways on the top with 44, 34 and 22 people in them respectively at the moment. Fair play a giveaway will always bring in the numbers but when I left just now I was the only person in HxHD, which is simply not on in the evenings no matter how many times "we can't be there 24/7!!!" is pleaded.

[Immenseman]

Yeah, there is no excuse for it being empty after school on a winters evening, lol.

[Nixt]

code it predominantly in CSS, then the transition is sleek.

that's what i did with CH, simply coded the majority of it with divs, and we'll have no trouble switching over. will take a bit of tweaking but heh.

We will have enough work cut out making the transition with our current skins, it's just a lot easier if we code our new skins onto VB4. I do think the skins are an issue but I don't think they are that pressing, as yet. I do very much agree we need some new skins though.

Going back to presence on the hotel, logged in at about 3 and been just wandering about HxHD checking it every couple of minutes and seen literally 7 people in that time. Then I see navigator and CH, HFFM and some guys called Habbo-Sovial have got giveaways on the top with 44, 34 and 22 people in them respectively at the moment. Fair play a giveaway will always bring in the numbers but when I left just now I was the only person in HxHD, which is simply not on in the evenings no matter how many times "we can't be there 24/7!!!" is pleaded.

I agree that HxHD is a prime way of attracting new members and it should be at the top of the list at this kind of time. HxHD and it's staff can do this as they have proved in the past and I think it would be beneficial if they cracked on and made it happen regularly .

[xxMATTGxx]

Any new skins will be for Vb4 from now on (I think) due to Vb4 being one of them annoying things. Anyway, I was never a big fan of the badge system you may see on other forums. But if Habbox did get it installed and the badges looked pretty cool and the system was well organised in giving them out etc etc. Then I can see it being a pretty good idea.

[Immenseman]

Why aren't people fans though? I think it's time you disregard your personal likes and dislikes and actually implemented things that benefit the forum. With all respect, I believe that if the forum was doing really well then that'd be because of MattGarner's management and if it's struggling then I see it as his fault.

It's like a football team. If the team is struggling, the blame has to be placed on the managers shoulders because they're the one who are sticking with the systems. This can be related to the forum too in my opinion. Even if there are background problems. At Portsmouth there were money issue, the manager had to make do, he had to sell players and couldn't buy. He was dismissed because the team didn't do well. Like at the moment Gordon Brown is blamed for all the problems even if it might not be his fault just because he's in charge.

That's why I think blame has to ultimately lay at the door of general and forum management. They're the ones who can get change. It's all well and good saying things might have to happen because of the lack of the activity and what not but rather than keep talking about them why don't we see some proof of them happening.

[xxMATTGxx]

I only said "I was never a big fan of the badge system". That doesn't mean it would never come to the forum. It also doesn't mean I would hate it that much I would say "no" to it. If the badges were made looking good and the system worked well, then I would have no problems with it being on the forum. The badge system has already got a thread for Forum & General Management to talk about in the staff forums, to discuss what the views are on it, it’s allowed and so on. So if my views was really bad about the system, then surely that thread would not be there in the first place.

Why aren't people fans though? I think it's time you disregard your personal likes and dislikes and actually implemented things that benefit the forum. With all respect, I believe that if the forum was doing really well then that'd be because of MattGarner's management and if it's struggling then I see it as his fault.

It's like a football team. If the team is struggling, the blame has to be placed on the managers shoulders because they're the one who are sticking with the systems. This can be related to the forum too in my opinion. Even if there are background problems. At Portsmouth there were money issue, the manager had to make do, he had to sell players and couldn't buy. He was dismissed because the team didn't do well. Like at the moment Gordon Brown is blamed for all the problems even if it might not be his fault just because he's in charge.

That's why I think blame has to ultimately lay at the door of general and forum management. They're the ones who can get change. It's all well and good saying things might have to happen because of the lack of the activity and what not but rather than keep talking about them why don't we see some proof of them happening.

[FlyingJesus]

I think he was talking more about accountability than the reasons for not liking badges, that seemed more of a minor opening point on that post