Forum going down hill?

[Titch]

Tom for gm.

Mattg for agm (community)

Garion for fm.

Robbie for afm.

That wud be cool (Y)

[GommeInc]

Oh dear, just seen the Debates Forum announcement. Prepare for a distinct lack of taste when official debates are mentioned. Should go with the other plan and just pick out interesting debates made by members in the members debate forum, and give the creator of said debate the VIP when the debate is in full swing :/ Management Debates just add a needless rift between members and management, and the debates management make are rarely as interesting (seeing as they died for a reason first time round).

Did they not read this thread with the feedback on that idea? Why should they suggest "competitive" debates when they can just post them themselves? Doesn't seem very thought through to be honest :/

[Hecktix]

Oh dear, just seen the Debates Forum announcement. Prepare for a distinct lack of taste when official debates are mentioned. Should go with the other plan and just pick out interesting debates made by members in the members debate forum, and give the creator of said debate the VIP when the debate is in full swing :/ Management Debates just add a needless rift between members and management, and the debates management make are rarely as interesting (seeing as they died for a reason first time round).

Did they not read this thread with the feedback on that idea? Why should they suggest "competitive" debates when they can just post them themselves? Doesn't seem very thought through to be honest :/

As I backed you previously with this idea, I'll back you again now (even though i'll probably get told off by garion )

This certainly would make members feel more involved as well as making them feel more important.

[Chippiewill]

As I backed you previously with this idea, I'll back you again now (even though i'll probably get told off by garion )

This certainly would make members feel more involved as well as making them feel more important.

I am also in support of the idea....

[GommeInc]

Well, according to Garion the idea is fool proof and is "clean and simple". It's not simple at all, members suggest an idea, and have to wait for ages until whoever is incharge to post it. Simple is doing something with little effort, not forcing discussions to halt while a member of management takes a week to Google information about something they probably do not care about, at least the person who suggested the idea probably cares about the subject, otherwise, why did they post it?

And another thing, the person who suggested it probably has reason to, and can put forward the debate better than a management member using "Google". This idea will just crash and burn like the first time it happened, the person in charge will lose all passion for it (as they would, they're not the ones caring and the discussions, it's the member behind the suggestion who does) and the debates will turn tedious, like they did with the old system. I really don't see how it can work, and just adds a divide in the community, again, all so they win VIP which is a silly reason, all that effort and waiting for VIP? Might as well reduce effort and pick out an interesting debate and mark it as official because it shows good qualities, and give the creator of the debate a reward and maybe even the person putting forward a good case.

As said, this doesn't appear to of been discussed between management and members, and was just commissioned for the sake of it :/

[The Professor]

I disagree with it purely because I know management will do it for a month and forget about it, not saying anything about them as people but its so low down the priority list in the grand scheme of things! Look how the last one died

[Immenseman]

I do agree with them being independent. Maybe just not done by management. I do believe there has to be someone "in charge" of official debates to see over them and pick a few users who have contributed the best over the week. I don't want to turn this about me but that's how it's done on CHF and it works very well. I do the debates, I contribute constructively, have no other role to worry about and then pick those who have participated and offered quality contributions. Users get involved on there by suggesting what the weekly debate can be etc. I think management like Alex said won't be able to prioritise it. I'd like to see someone who cares for debates and has nothing else to worry about. The two who have posted above, Alex and Ryan would be fantastic for this role (I know it's not up to me). This is what I'd like to see happen anyway.

[Robbie]

I'm not a huge fan of the debates forum idea, for the simple reason that if someone has a good idea they can simply make it in member-created debates rather than having to wait for management to create it.

EDITTTT: Maybe it would be better if members created debates in the member creation forum and then if management like it it can be moved to official debates. More time debating less time waiting!

[GommeInc]

I do agree with them being independent. Maybe just not done by management. I do believe there has to be someone "in charge" of official debates to see over them and pick a few users who have contributed the best over the week. I don't want to turn this about me but that's how it's done on CHF and it works very well. I do the debates, I contribute constructively, have no other role to worry about and then pick those who have participated and offered quality contributions. Users get involved on there by suggesting what the weekly debate can be etc. I think management like Alex said won't be able to prioritise it. I'd like to see someone who cares for debates and has nothing else to worry about. The two who have posted above, Alex and Ryan would be fantastic for this role (I know it's not up to me). This is what I'd like to see happen anyway.

Someone's gonna get snoo snoo tonight

I'm on an imaginary do not hire list anyway. And how does CHF do it? Do they write the debates themselves (like HxF did before) or do they just pick out member debates?

I'm not a huge fan of the debates forum idea, for the simple reason that if someone has a good idea they can simply make it in member-created debates rather than having to wait for management to create it.

Exactly, the ony thing that seems to hold this idea together is the VIP reward, but surely they could give this to people who create the debates, not just a one sentence suggestion as seems to be suggested?

[Immenseman]

On CHF, the debates are written by the debates leader on a weekly basis. They often take ideas from users in a stickied thread at the top of the debates forum called "Suggest debates here" or something similar. About not being hired, nvr told me even *I* would allowed to be hired if I behaved (yes he acknowledged my recent ban in this) Not that I have any interest but if I can then you certainly can ol: