Forum going down hill?

[Kevin]

No but it gets a sarky comment from me since you obviously hold a grudge for some reason :rolleyes:

invincible is the reason

[xxMATTGxx]

invincible is the reason

I'm sorry for going to post this here. But I have noticed what you sent a fairly new member of this forum. They were that disgusted and upset regarding your PM they didn't want to stay on this forum at all. But due to the Moderation Department dealing with it, that member now wants to stay.

We are trying to encourage new members to join and stay active. We don't need other users pushing them away due to them being rude and offensive towards them in private messages.

[alexxxxx]

right, my ideas.

this forum has been quite noticeably struggling with getting new members. all i see when/where i post is people with post counts of thousands plus. alot of us have been on this forum for years (me personally will have been on here for SIX in march, if i stay on that long).

i don't know what goes on in habbo anymore, i havent been on it to 'play' for a couple of years now. but i'm aware of loads of changes. it looks like sulake is trying to suck up the community under their umbrella and you need to fight back.

i think management is an issue. i've never been involved in moderation nor any job here (even though I have applied several times), yet i have seen in the past what i'd call 'unexperienced' moderation, people who are relatively new to the community getting moderation jobs. Infact I remember at one point (im not sure if they're still on here), someone became a manager with hardly any posts at all. I think people need to prove themselves over time to show that they are capable of taking up responsibilities further up the community. there was a point where every other member seemed to have a job, whilst now management is alot more concentrated and when you have exams, work, the like i guess the amount of time you can devote to evolving the community is limited. The council was a failure. But maybe informal ideas should be taken into consideration more by the newer members.

I remember when alot of people left (perhaps the last 'generation') when there were scandles with Mizki and a load of others running off. There was alot of mis-management then with the main community and i think the worrying thing is that management aren't attracting new members. An Arcade that is PREVELANT, and maybe is joined up with the competitions dptmt (ie habbo prizes for arcade results etc). I know there's a HxHD but what is the deal with that? Does it act as a sort of habbox info centre in habbo? I think Hx and HxF needs to be advertised more. Maybe a return of HxTV? ^_^

I don't go on the habbo section of the forum anymore, i know i was brought here by habbo and then moved over to general forum area, this transition isn't really attractive as most people already have made certain friendships and crews with people (i haven't personally really, although i enjoy a dig at dan now and again ). I know I was intimidated with the cliques when i was making the 'transition' and i think a group system would help people get 'into' the general section (which is essentially the core of hxf).

I think a bit of research is in order. How old people are, which forums they visit. I'd hazard a guess the older members are in general and the younger members are in habbo. This is an issue that really needs to be resolved.

[hah]

yeah you need to hire mods who get involved


general mods - Bolt660, SuperNic., Laurensh1, syko2006

i have never seen any of the post in Spam before they became mods (cept syko2006) and even now they only talk to a select few and most of the time it's other staff, and there all well behaved members who don't know whats going on half the time. You need to hire more mods like oli, he is not so well behaved (or wasn't whatever way you wanna put that) but knows whats going on as he talks to nearly everyone and most people like him.

The people who seem to cry about oli and other mods are usually just in a pissy mood because they got a infraction or whatever

[Martin]

yeah you need to hire mods who get involved


general mods - Bolt660, SuperNic., Laurensh1, syko2006

i have never seen any of the post in Spam before they became mods (cept syko2006) and even now they only talk to a select few and most of the time it's other staff, and there all well behaved members who don't know whats going on half the time. You need to hire more mods like oli, he is not so well behaved (or wasn't whatever way you wanna put that) but knows whats going on as he talks to nearly everyone and most people like him.

The people who seem to cry about oli and other mods are usually just in a pissy mood because they got a infraction or whatever

Sometimes it can be good to have impartial mods too. Just because we don't neccasarily post frequently in spam, it does not mean we are not reading each and every thread contained within it. Spam often contains personal conversations, and you are right in saying it is mostly the same members that get involved.

and there all well behaved members who don't know whats going on half the time

In general I feel mods should be setting the perfect example. If they frequently break the rules they are trying to enforce, then that's not really setting a great example.

Some sections of the forum (Habbo, Tech, Gaming etc DO require a certain knowledge of what that forum is about. Spam is sort of a universal forum, where you don't need to be a "spam expert" to see when someone is breaking a habboxforum rule.


I'm sorry you feel like this, and I will do my best to increase the frequency that I post in within spam!

[Jamesy]

Sometimes it can be good to have impartial mods too. Just because we don't neccasarily post frequently in spam, it does not mean we are not reading each and every thread contained within it. Spam often contains personal conversations, and you are right in saying it is mostly the same members that get involved.



In general I feel mods should be setting the perfect example. If they frequently break the rules they are trying to enforce, then that's not really setting a great example.

Some sections of the forum (Habbo, Tech, Gaming etc DO require a certain knowledge of what that forum is about. Spam is sort of a universal forum, where you don't need to be a "spam expert" to see when someone is breaking a habboxforum rule.


I'm sorry you feel like this, and I will do my best to increase the frequency that I post in within spam!

I agree with Bolt.

Until I was hired I never posted much, but I make an effort to reply to threads that interest me. Moderators don't neccassarily need to reply to every single thread and know everyone, but getting involved with the community is a must.

[Hecktix]

I believe our current mods are more than satisfactory.

They all have a good understanding of the sections they are in.

Jamesy is a perfect example here, nobody even knew who the hell he was when he moderated in General, yet the majority of his moderation showed understanding of the posts he was moderating.

The problem with mods getting involved in areas like spam is the danger that they will become too involved. I post a lot in spam and other areas of the forum and I try to ensure I have an understanding of most members, but that's probably because I'm sad and have a lot of spare time.

The introduction of syko2006 to the team was a good move imo and this will put another moderation face who posts in general section, although Bolt660 and SuperNic. also do a fantastic job in the general forums.

[StefanWolves]

I believe our current mods are more than satisfactory.

They all have a good understanding of the sections they are in.

Jamesy is a perfect example here, nobody even knew who the hell he was when he moderated in General, yet the majority of his moderation showed understanding of the posts he was moderating.

The problem with mods getting involved in areas like spam is the danger that they will become too involved. I post a lot in spam and other areas of the forum and I try to ensure I have an understanding of most members, but that's probably because I'm sad and have a lot of spare time.

The introduction of syko2006 to the team was a good move imo and this will put another moderation face who posts in general section, although Bolt660 and SuperNic. also do a fantastic job in the general forums.

You're not sad babez.

But I totally agree with your post, and the above post above yours I also agree with.

[le harry]

hi.

Yeah, ironic of me to say this, but it's true. This forum declined heavily due to arrogance and oldfagism, thanks to members like myself being ******** to new members. There's little chance of recover.

Trust me, I'd love to help this site recover. If the community step together there's a chance.

Just we need to be a little more... modern lol.

Who are you? Stop trying to make yourself sound important Mr. June 07.

:eusa_wall

[FlyingJesus]

Brings me back to my point, that has been mentioned over and over that we need to see Management sorted out. It's beginning to get quite frustrating that nothing is happening, even for me. I recognise it might be a case of "oh who do we promote" but at the end of the day no one is going to be much different after Christmas - take a risk, make the promotions and see what happens.

Frankly if the right people are put up top then who gets delegated the lower positions throughout management can easily be changed around if it turns out they're not suitable after all. I wouldn't say that all of management needs a reshuffle but for those areas that are struggling it may be better to attempt new staffing rather than allow it to continue to decline - nothing can get worse with some departments I'm sure so there's nothing to lose.

Which I, quite frankly, would like to abolish. I think it's awful. We didn't have it before and I don't see why we need to have it, half the time someone makes a mistake and a dodgy thread gets approved anyway and we don't get that many... I'm not a big fan of the post approval system. Our Moderators have got a lot better at approval, but tbf I would get annoyed if I didn't see my post VERY quickly. This can't happen with this system.

Even if only one post needed approving I think it would be a far better system. I believe it was put in place to stop spambots, but these are easily caught by their first post and can be dealt with then if necessary, rather than inconvenience members potentially over a number of days if they aren't posting lots as soon as they sign up.

What kinda groups were you thinking?

Well I did go on to talk about that in the same paragraph

FlyingJesus would be an excellent member of staff, if given the right position.

This is true I'm incredible at everything.

If we got rid of the filter, the wonders of immaturity would take hold on many of our members (sorry but it's true ) and everyone would be swearing constantly. It would ruin all discussion.

I agree, sometimes it's annoying that you can't swear but in general it just isn't necessary and wouldn't further any discussion. I think most words that were on the filter that didn't need to be have been removed now.

• Not sure on this idea, but because we get so many guests viewing the forum, yet they don't sign up? Maybe making a limit on the amount of threads viewable before people have to sign up to the forum- this would then encourage them to post in topics. This is done on other forums, and works to get the member count up- sparking discussion, and making users more involved. Again not completely sure with this, but along with possibly removing the "post approval" system it seems a good way to get people to post.

Nononononono. This has come up before and been shot down, because it essentially means we're driving away a large viewing traffic for the bounty of perhaps a handful of new users, most of which (as was once shown by current figures of the time) won't even post anyway. New arrivals as a number isn't a real problem, it's more just the fact that those who are signing up don't stick about.

• Getting a strong staffing team. If people are away (be it Illness or other commitments) then a replacement (If only temporary) needs to be put in place straight away. The job roles are there for a reason, and without them things can slip.

This one I do agree with. I know everybody loves Rosie and she's a fantastic person but when you're away such a long time there does need to be a cutoff point, and I'm sure she'd understand that 100%.

• Getting newer members involved. More chances to win, more fun, and a friendly atmousphere. We need to appear as a "community" and when there are arguments going on around the place it can affect the entire mood of the forum.
• A lot of newer members will be quite young, and should be treated carefully. People take things to heart, and get impressions of the forum as a whole, affecting whether they come back or not. Being made fun of because they like Habbo (which is what our forum is based on) is simply wrong.

This is something that I've seen plenty of times (the latter that is) and even recently I've been approached by a victim of it who did get upset and may not be sticking around because of it. What people need to remember is that we all started on Habbo and no matter how cool you think you are now there is no reason at all to slate someone for doing what they enjoy.