Brown pledges extra £7.5 BILLION while at Copenhagen

[Seatherny]

Just to add:

I will reply to your above post tomorrow as I am going now.

Radiation from the Sun does not heat up the Earth.

Go read up on how a microwave works and what a microwave does and then talk about radiation.
Actually go read up on radiation in general as you clearly don't understand what it means or you wouldn't be making such laughable claims.

Go find out since when o-zone started erm depleting and since when the pull of the moon has existed and then look at the temperature of the earth and compare it all. Shocking results!!

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Just to add:

I will reply to your above post tomorrow as I am going now.



Go read up on how a microwave works and what a microwave does and then talk about radiation.
Actually go read up on radiation in general as you clearly don't understand what it means or you wouldn't be making such laughable claims.

Go find out since when o-zone started erm depleting and since when the pull of the moon has existed and then look at the temperature of the earth and compare it all. Shocking results!!

..is that why the temperature of the Earth has varied so much in its entire history despite the fact that humans have only been here for a very small portion of its history?. To claim humans are causing global warming is laughable, not to mention the fact you continually ignore my points that the sea levels are not rising and the points on the pull of the moon on sea levels, longshore drift and rivers in general.

I used to believe in global warming believe it or not, then I actually looked at it and thought about it as I did with many other things and I came to the right conclusions as it turns out, because if you sing and dance to the tune Al Gore and Gordon Brown are playing then you certainly are being made a fool of.

[Seatherny]

Like I said, which clearly shows you arent reading my posts, I will reply properly in the morning.

The pull of the moon has existed since the beginning ...
Explain why Australia has had such a high rise in temperature and thats where the o-zone layer has a big hole?
Are you sure you wanna stick to your comment that radiation doesnt heat things up? If so, I would request you to look at your primary school books, unless now you are going to claim that they were written just to scare kids by scientists who were paid by the government.

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Like I said, which clearly shows you arent reading my posts, I will reply properly in the morning.

The pull of the moon has existed since the beginning ...
Explain why Australia has had such a high rise in temperature and thats where the o-zone layer has a big hole?
Are you sure you wanna stick to your comment that radiation doesnt heat things up? If so, I would request you to look at your primary school books, unless now you are going to claim that they were written just to scare kids by scientists who were paid by the government.

The pull of the Moon changes throughout history, as does the magnetic pulse of the Earth and the poles also switch, not to mention the tilt of the Earth.

On Austrialia, because thats a natural change in temperature as shown by the examples below;

Explain to me how Britain (Britannia under the Romans) went from being a warm climate where vine farms were growing all over to a land where its nearly impossible to grow grapes right now in 2009?. (No factories or cars around at this time)

Explain to me how the British Isles went from tropical forests to a landmass covered in ice? (No factories or cars around at this time)

Explain to me how it used to be possible to walk from Europe to Britain where the English Channel currently is? (No factories or cars around at this time)

[Seatherny]

Just to add:

I will reply to your above post tomorrow as I am going now.



Go read up on how a microwave works and what a microwave does and then talk about radiation.
Actually go read up on radiation in general as you clearly don't understand what it means or you wouldn't be making such laughable claims.

Go find out since when o-zone started erm depleting and since when the pull of the moon has existed and then look at the temperature of the earth and compare it all. Shocking results!!

Like I said, which clearly shows you arent reading my posts, I will reply properly in the morning.

The pull of the moon has existed since the beginning ...
Explain why Australia has had such a high rise in temperature and thats where the o-zone layer has a big hole?
Are you sure you wanna stick to your comment that radiation doesnt heat things up? If so, I would request you to look at your primary school books, unless now you are going to claim that they were written just to scare kids by scientists who were paid by the government.

Read my reply in my previous posts about the Moon. Radiation heats up the Earth. How hard is that to understand :s
Greenhouse gases have no link on the ozone? Are you crazy? Its whats causing a depletion in the O-Zone layer, especially over Australia.
Go read up on O-Zone as you obviously have no clue what you are on about. Like I have said earlier, you cannot comment on climate change if you do not understand this fundamental part.



So UKIP would have failed too, so why are you moaning about Gordon Brown selling gold cheaply and hinting that caused the financial crisis :rolleyes:
Make your mind up and go read up on the ozone. We were taught about this in primary school :rolleyes:

Oh my. Lack of Ozone causes the Earth to warm up. Of course that isn't changing the climate ... :rolleyes:
I wonder if you are really saying such things ...
Like I said, if you dont know about the O-Zone, you cannot argue on this as that is the cause of Global Warming. You cant just go into a debate not knowing one of the most fundamental causes :S Earth warms up, sea level rises and that causes flooding. Is it really that hard to understand?

Where have you come up with the moon story? Because a non-British/USA government had it done by one of their scientists? :rolleyes:

Once you reply to all these posts of mine regarding the o-zone and radiation, I will happily answer yours. You keep saying I am ignoring your questions but it was me who asked these first. If you cannot answer them properly then simply stop arguing as it shows you know very little about this topic. You cannot just take one side of the argument and not understand the otherside.

I will sum it up once again:

If you think radiation doesn't warm stuff up, open your primary school books.
If you think Earths radiation isnt blocked by o-zone, go read up on it.
When we burn fossil fuels, the gases it releases causes a depletion in the o-zone. This means that the ozone is unable to protect the Earth from these radiation. What fossil fuel we burn doesn't go directly above Britain, it is blown by the wind to surrounding countries and they suffer because of us. A big hole in the ozone layer has appeared above Australia and that's causing the country/continent to warm up so much. Otherwise explain to me where the hole came from? Or have the scientists edited their results and put a big hole above Australia? Their expertise must actually be on paint tbh.

Now there is a lack of o-zone over Australia, the Sun's radiation is able to hit the Earths surface directly e.g. Australia and that's causing the temperate to rise.

You have said radiation doesn't cause climate change / warmer weather. You have said it twice actually. If you still stand by that statement, I am not even going to bother replying to you as it would be just a waste of my time as it shows how you have just seen one side of the argument and are just using that without fully understanding the otherside. Its very clear your expertise is in Politics and how to dodge questions which you cannot answer like my local MP who is annoying as hell, and not in Science.

Now answer every point I have made above made, otherwise don't bother replying / don't expect a reply from me. I am not going to keep repeating myself. If you don't understand the ozone, then stop debating this as it shows your lack of understanding on the topic.

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Once you reply to all these posts of mine regarding the o-zone and radiation, I will happily answer yours. You keep saying I am ignoring your questions but it was me who asked these first. If you cannot answer them properly then simply stop arguing as it shows you know very little about this topic. You cannot just take one side of the argument and not understand the otherside.

I have answered them, the ozone keeps out radiation - what more can I possibly say about that?

I will sum it up once again:

If you think radiation doesn't warm stuff up, open your primary school books.

All radiation isn't hot, radiation at the polls has always been higher and there is background radiation in Cornwall from the rocks, yet its not a tropic area now is it?

If you think Earths radiation isnt blocked by o-zone, go read up on it.

Where have I said that?

When we burn fossil fuels, the gases it releases causes a depletion in the o-zone. This means that the ozone is unable to protect the Earth from these radiation. What fossil fuel we burn doesn't go directly above Britain, it is blown by the wind to surrounding countries and they suffer because of us.

It does not warm up the Earth. The greenhouse effect is based on the argument that the gases and not the ozone heat up the Earth, as the gases get trapped and the heat from the Sun cannot escape.

A big hole in the ozone layer has appeared above Australia and that's causing the country/continent to warm up so much. Otherwise explain to me where the hole came from? Or have the scientists edited their results and put a big hole above Australia? Their expertise must actually be on paint tbh.

Austrialia has not 'warmed up so much', it may of escaped your notice but Austrialia is a desert and always has been for much of its modern history. Ozone depletion does not cause higher temperatures, it merely causes more dangerous radiation/UV levels.

Now there is a lack of o-zone over Australia, the Sun's radiation is able to hit the Earths surface directly e.g. Australia and that's causing the temperate to rise.

I'll ask one question and it'll stumble this argument right over, how did the last ice ages and other tropical periods occur when we didn't even have factories or cars?

You have said radiation doesn't cause climate change / warmer weather. You have said it twice actually. If you still stand by that statement, I am not even going to bother replying to you as it would be just a waste of my time as it shows how you have just seen one side of the argument and are just using that without fully understanding the otherside. Its very clear your expertise is in Politics and how to dodge questions which you cannot answer like my local MP who is annoying as hell, and not in Science.

It is very strange how I am debating with someone about climate change but they refuse to even understand the fact that if you build next to a river you get a flood, not to mention somebody who blindly ignores history which shows that the temperature of the Earth never ever stays the same.

Although when the other side starts to question the opposing sides debating skills that is truly a sign that they seriously have no idea what they are talking about.

Now answer every point I have made above made, otherwise don't bother replying / don't expect a reply from me. I am not going to keep repeating myself. If you don't understand the ozone, then stop debating this as it shows your lack of understanding on the topic.

Answered, now explain what I asked you to explain.