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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    They say he has this condition. If thats the case then what the hell was he doing in China in the first place?
    You can't just be sceptical about everyone you know, some people really do have these conditions and they are most likely to be targeted by people who smuggle drugs. As for being in China, when I saw this on the news he was apparently over there to look for a record contract as he was writing a song to try and spur on world peace. Now judging by this I would say his dilusions are pretty bad, because that is quite an odd reason to be over there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tash. View Post
    You can't just be sceptical about everyone you know, some people really do have these conditions and they are most likely to be targeted by people who smuggle drugs. As for being in China, when I saw this on the news he was apparently over there to look for a record contract as he was writing a song to try and spur on world peace. Now judging by this I would say his dilusions are pretty bad, because that is quite an odd reason to be over there.
    I'm sceptical of someone who was found in China to be carrying a lot of drugs around with him, which obviously were not for personal usage given the amount of drugs. I just find is incredibly strange how nearly all drug dealers, murderers and criminals in general seem to develop/have some form of mental disorder when they are caught, but if they are not caught it doesn't seem to stop them murderering/theiving or smuggling drugs around, does it.

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    Well he was given the lethal injection today so i don't know what will happen now. Probably nothing because England as a country is weak, in my opinion he wasn't theirs to execute yeah he did it but he was mentally unstable and could have been un aware that they were actually drugs they could have told him it was a parcel or something like that.

    Anyway i think no one deserves to loose there life because besides the obviously ethnical issues a life time imprisonment is much worse then death - that is the easy option.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Luccy. View Post
    Well he was given the lethal injection today so i don't know what will happen now. Probably nothing because England as a country is weak, in my opinion he wasn't theirs to execute yeah he did it but he was mentally unstable and could have been un aware that they were actually drugs they could have told him it was a parcel or something like that.

    Anyway i think no one deserves to loose there life because besides the obviously ethnical issues a life time imprisonment is much worse then death - that is the easy option.
    It's all over now, there's nothing more to be done.

    Although I oppose the death penalty for every crime, I can very much see where the Chinese were coming from. The whole story is something a child could of made up. First they're saying he was tricked into carrying them, and then he was totally unaware of them. He went to China to become a popstar? Going to China to become a popstar is not a recognised career path, he also has no history of singing. Much like he has no history of mental illness and when he was alive it was never actually proved. His stories don't add up, and the amount of heroin he had, had the potentials to kills thousands of people. Drug smuggling is all about risk, hence why so few do it, there is enormous rewards but the reason you get paid so much is because there is the risk element, and sometimes it doesn't go to plan. He knew going into the country of their laws.

    From his perspective I would of rather been executed, if he wasn't executed he would of had life without parole in prison, and frankly I'd rather be executed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordy View Post
    It's all over now, there's nothing more to be done.

    Although I oppose the death penalty for every crime, I can very much see where the Chinese were coming from. The whole story is something a child could of made up. First they're saying he was tricked into carrying them, and then he was totally unaware of them. He went to China to become a popstar? Going to China to become a popstar is not a recognised career path, he also has no history of singing. Much like he has no history of mental illness and when he was alive it was never actually proved. His stories don't add up, and the amount of heroin he had, had the potentials to kills thousands of people. Drug smuggling is all about risk, hence why so few do it, there is enormous rewards but the reason you get paid so much is because there is the risk element, and sometimes it doesn't go to plan. He knew going into the country of their laws.

    From his perspective I would of rather been executed, if he wasn't executed he would of had life without parole in prison, and frankly I'd rather be executed?
    Well when you put it like that, lol. And I agree with the last bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jord View Post
    Yeah if you are thick enough to smuggle drugs for someone else there is no need for stupid people in this world.
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    I can't really dissagree with the Chinese can I.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordy View Post
    From his perspective I would of rather been executed, if he wasn't executed he would of had life without parole in prison, and frankly I'd rather be executed?
    Yeah that is my point you want to do to the criminal what they don't want i think i would rather die then have a lie in prison. When i say life in prison i mean life no parol offered or anything, until you die. I think it's a great alternative to death because they have to suffer for what they have done, we all have our own beliefs about what happens in the "after life" this is the only way we can make sure that punishment is served. Especially when they have murdered someone themselves


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordy View Post
    It's all over now, there's nothing more to be done.

    Although I oppose the death penalty for every crime, I can very much see where the Chinese were coming from. The whole story is something a child could of made up. First they're saying he was tricked into carrying them, and then he was totally unaware of them. He went to China to become a popstar? Going to China to become a popstar is not a recognised career path, he also has no history of singing. Much like he has no history of mental illness and when he was alive it was never actually proved. His stories don't add up, and the amount of heroin he had, had the potentials to kills thousands of people. Drug smuggling is all about risk, hence why so few do it, there is enormous rewards but the reason you get paid so much is because there is the risk element, and sometimes it doesn't go to plan. He knew going into the country of their laws.

    From his perspective I would of rather been executed, if he wasn't executed he would of had life without parole in prison, and frankly I'd rather be executed?
    At the bit in bold, do you not think if he went to China to become a pop star and this isnt a normal action, does it not point towards the fact that he wasn't exactly thinking straight, and therefore this may mean he did have the dilusions attributed to bi-polar disorder? That's certainly how I see it. And yes he did have a history of singing, infact a couple have come forward telling how he talked them into allowing him to record a song called "Come Little Rabbits" or something. Those aren't the actions of a man of sound mind.

    I personally think the whole thing is disgusting, and it just shows that they cannot be reasoned with at all. They ignored repeated calls for clemecy by the foreign secretary and the PM, and to me it just stinks of China trying to prove a point to the UK.

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    The whole thing with the popstar stuff. The people who said they would make him a popstar apparently put the drugs on him.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tash. View Post
    At the bit in bold, do you not think if he went to China to become a pop star and this isnt a normal action, does it not point towards the fact that he wasn't exactly thinking straight, and therefore this may mean he did have the dilusions attributed to bi-polar disorder? That's certainly how I see it. And yes he did have a history of singing, infact a couple have come forward telling how he talked them into allowing him to record a song called "Come Little Rabbits" or something. Those aren't the actions of a man of sound mind.

    I personally think the whole thing is disgusting, and it just shows that they cannot be reasoned with at all. They ignored repeated calls for clemecy by the foreign secretary and the PM, and to me it just stinks of China trying to prove a point to the UK.
    Well there wasn't much else that could be done. The almighty EU failed to make a stand lol.

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