Security alert on Heathrow Airport plane

[Yoshimitsui]

I must of missed the countless OAP terrorists then, I really should watch the news more often I guess.

On the brainwashing part, not they could not. We live in 2010 the real world, not Harry Potter.

Mary "yeah abdul could you dress me for my trip to the airport"
Abdul "yeah sure thing mary love"
Mary "whats this weird packet of explosive liquid your puttin' in me knickerz luvvy??"
Abdul "yeah erm thats just to make your flight more comfortable, and when your over the atlantic make sure you light it"

It's ironic that you should refer to the terrorist in your little role play as someone not likely of a british background.

It seems you assume anyone not from this country should be immediately thought of as a terrorist and anyone who is can do what they wish and all live in happy land.

[Seatherny]

It's ironic that you should refer to the terrorist in your little role play as someone not likely of a british background.

It seems you assume anyone not from this country should be immediately thought of as a terrorist and anyone who is can do what they wish and all live in happy land.

Haha indeed. Its all getting silly now.

[-:Undertaker:-]

You obviously don't understand brainwashing then. Your fundamental self beliefs don't mean a thing if you're brainwashed, it's a form of torture for gods sake :rolleyes:. You won't even think about your UKIP/etc beliefs if you were brainwashed.

Terrorists now have a magical ability to change anyones opinion? - you cannot be brainwashed if your fundamental beliefs are strong. On UKIP - it seems you yourself have been brainwashed by what others have said on this forum, UKIP has nothing to do with this conversation so lets not mention it.

I would +rep you if I could!

Do you actually know what brainwashing is? I am pretty confident after reading that post, that you have no idea what it means. May I point you towards www.dictionary.com?

Yes I do, and i'm eager to meet one of these magical terrorists who seem to have the ability to change my opinions from hot to cold/cold to hot straight away it seems.

Not in the real world though, only in your world.

It's ironic that you should refer to the terrorist in your little role play as someone not likely of a british background.

It seems you assume anyone not from this country should be immediately thought of as a terrorist and anyone who is can do what they wish and all live in happy land.

I am not sure where you have been exactly since 9/11, but regardless it shows exactly what I am up against here. The threat we face now is not Irish extremism, it is Islamic extremism.

In popular culture, Abdul is considered to be a name linked with the east/non-western countries so the name Abdul would be used, as it makes more sense rather than me using the name Paddy. Just as when we were fighting Irish extremism I am sure nobody gave an example of a terrorist being called Muhammed or Abdul.

[nat965]

My dad's always saying "why don't they have police on board planes, and better security checks" :rolleyes: He doesn't seem to know that they are working to try & combat it :@

[Seatherny]

Yes I do, and i'm eager to meet one of these magical terrorists who seem to have the ability to change my opinions from hot to cold/cold to hot straight away it seems.

Not in the real world though, only in your world.

Like I said, you have no clue what brainwashing means. Its pointless even replying to you now.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Like I said, you have no clue what brainwashing means. Its pointless even replying to you now.

I know what brainwashing means, and I have just said that it is near to next impossible to convert ordinary folk into terrorists. You make it out as though terrorists are magicians waiting in the dark, ready to pounce upon the British public of whom will then get on their nearest airline and blow it up.

Extremism does not work like that.

[Seatherny]

I know what brainwashing means, and I have just said that it is near to next impossible to convert ordinary folk into terrorists. You make it out as though terrorists are magicians waiting in the dark, ready to pounce upon the British public of whom will then get on their nearest airline and blow it up.

Extremism does not work like that.

If you brainwash someone, you force them to believe something by continually telling them that it is true, and preventing them from thinking about it properly.

Yeah, they can brainwash people.

[Yoshimitsui]

It works dependent on the background you are brought up in, people who have been taught to believe in such extremist views from the moment they are born, from their parents to their grandparents and so on. They believe it also due to simply having nothing else to believe in or to work or fight for, they often live in the hardest of conditions and turn to fight their 'special cause'. However, it only takes one person who has been turned to ruins in anger, hate, love and war for them to take up a foolish and horrific act in terrorism.

Thus proving the point anyone can become a terrorist, you speak of the IRA, yet its acts pretty faded away spar the few who have again been brought up in its beliefs and take on the information as it is simply all they know and not that of right or wrong.

It takes one persons heart to be destroyed and they can create the suffering of thousands.

[-:Undertaker:-]

If you brainwash someone, you force them to believe something by continually telling them that it is true, and preventing them from thinking about it properly.

Yeah, they can brainwash people.

You cannot force somebody to think something, thats why dictatorships never work in the end and crumble and thats why socialism didn't work.

It works dependent on the background you are brought up in, people who have been taught to believe in such extremist views from the moment they are born, from their parents to their grandparents and so on. They believe it also due to simply having nothing else to believe in or to work or fight for, they often live in the hardest of conditions and turn to fight their 'special cause'. However, it only takes one person who has been turned to ruins in anger, hate, love and war for them to take up a foolish and horrific act in terrorism.

Thus proving the point anyone can become a terrorist, you speak of the IRA, yet its acts pretty faded away spar the few who have again been brought up in its beliefs and take on the information as it is simply all they know and not that of right or wrong.

It takes one persons heart to be destroyed and they can create the suffering of thousands.

Totally correct on how terrorism lives, and totally agree. The thing I do not agree with is the message which seems to be that people can suddenly become terrorists by other terrorists somehow brainwashing them.

Extremism is deep within somebody, it doesn't come from your local terrorist as I have been saying all along in this thread.

[Yoshimitsui]

What about those under duress? It's not always a group holding someones family and saying commit this act or we will kill them. You find that its family that will often force their equals to commit acts they believe in but not necessarily the beliefs of the child, individual or other. People with power over others or simply knowing something about them that they do not wish others to know, people can be easily coerced into the darkest of evils, and before you know it they have grown into it.