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    But people are making opinions on what they see. If I said "that was a good tackle" at a football match (I don't know a thing about football) and it wasn't then it still wouldn't take away the fact that it was my opinion and I genuinely thought it was a good tackle. If people genuinely feel that this is a good film, then surely their opinions should be respected. Obviously a lot of judges felt the same way.
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    Misawa don't you watch wrestling?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammeth. View Post
    But people are making opinions on what they see. If I said "that was a good tackle" at a football match (I don't know a thing about football) and it wasn't then it still wouldn't take away the fact that it was my opinion and I genuinely thought it was a good tackle. If people genuinely feel that this is a good film, then surely their opinions should be respected. Obviously a lot of judges felt the same way.
    But misawa is always right and we all have to agree with him...

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    Quote Originally Posted by StefanWolves View Post
    Misawa don't you watch wrestling?
    Yes, I do. Your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misawa View Post
    People should stop trying to make statements when they're way out of their depth. You're all obviously incredibly naive and think Hollywood is all glitz and glamour and bubbles. If only you knew.
    Quote Originally Posted by Misawa View Post
    The craft of film-making is full of facts. People who would think that Avatar is a better shot film than The Hurt Locker are factually wrong. Film is technical and people here do not know that, so they should stop trying to sway someone who does, because they're out of their depth, just like I would be in a discussion about football or what have you.

    Actually, Christoph Waltz won Best Supporting Actor, and I knew full well Inglourious *******s wouldn't win Best Film, Quentin wouldn't win Best Director and BEst Screenplay, despite it being the best script by far out of the nominees, simply because the judges have always taken exception to his anti-Hollywood punk film-making. It is the same as the Oscars 2009, when the Academy deliberately and spitefully snubbed Mickey Rourke simply because of their dislike for his past.

    And yes, I do know. Why? Because it's what I do for a living.
    im sorry almighty god, i shall forever listen to your views as you are a film director and know what you are talking about. Forgive my ways, mighty one. :rolleyes:

    where do you have the right to call people idiots just because they dont agree with you. all your twitter statuses have been are you blabbering on about how '$$$' means that films get awards. who cares, it shows people liked it and were willing to pay for it to go to the cinema. that shows that its a good film. to be honest, there should be a publics film award ceremony anyway.. or is there?

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    I like how you guys are totally ignorant of Misawa, and I like how Misawa keeps repeating the same things over and over again (no offence Adam, I understand).

    Simply put, there were better made films this year. Whether you like it or not, there will always be a better film. Awards are empty and meaningless, it's your own opinion that matters in your heart.

    I was shocked that Moon wasn't nominated for anything, but given it's largely an independent film, I'm not that surprised.

    I can understand everyone's disapproval of Misawa (Adam), but Addycakes does know a lot more about film. He's seen a lot more films, and he can probably divulge into the technical aspect of it too.

    Maybe you guys should stop arguing that Addycake's statements aren't facts, they're opinions, because at the end of the day, he's just trying to state something. Statements are a mixture of both facts and opinion.

    For instance, he is totally right about the judges being biased and leaning towards Avatar. Maybe not because of its dollar dollar, but maybe more because it has wider appeal. I never expected Avatar to win Best Picture, at all, because it isn't the best picture of the year, not if you narrow it down critically.

    The Hurt Locker didn't deserve to win either, neither did Moon or Inglourious *******s. A decision can never be made by the general public, because everyone will have disagreements and whatnot, that's why they have judges... but judges sway towards certain things too.

    I'm kinda tired of all the hate directed towards Addycakes, he's not a bad person, he is just trying to post and be a nice film chap around these parts, you shouldn't ignore the things he says and spite him for saying these things.

    Quote Originally Posted by wet_cat
    But misawa is always right and we all have to agree with him...
    He doesn't want anyone to agree with him. He isn't trying to sway opinion towards his own statements or facts or whatever, everyone is entitled to their own globe (Christopher Waltz speech reference yoohoo).

    Don't be so spiteful kids, play nice.

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    I think its how he puts his points across which annoys everyone. I happen to agree that Avatar shouldnt have won Best Picture or Best Direction, however to say that anyone who disagrees with his opnion are idiots is hugely disrespectful. Maybe if he learned to put his points across with a certain manner of decency he would gain a lot more respect from members who would be certainly more willing to listen to what he has to say. You gain respect by being respectful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apeel View Post
    I like how you guys are totally ignorant of Misawa, and I like how Misawa keeps repeating the same things over and over again (no offence Adam, I understand).

    Simply put, there were better made films this year. Whether you like it or not, there will always be a better film. Awards are empty and meaningless, it's your own opinion that matters in your heart.

    I was shocked that Moon wasn't nominated for anything, but given it's largely an independent film, I'm not that surprised.

    I can understand everyone's disapproval of Misawa (Adam), but Addycakes does know a lot more about film. He's seen a lot more films, and he can probably divulge into the technical aspect of it too.

    Maybe you guys should stop arguing that Addycake's statements aren't facts, they're opinions, because at the end of the day, he's just trying to state something. Statements are a mixture of both facts and opinion.

    For instance, he is totally right about the judges being biased and leaning towards Avatar. Maybe not because of its dollar dollar, but maybe more because it has wider appeal. I never expected Avatar to win Best Picture, at all, because it isn't the best picture of the year, not if you narrow it down critically.

    The Hurt Locker didn't deserve to win either, neither did Moon or Inglourious *******s. A decision can never be made by the general public, because everyone will have disagreements and whatnot, that's why they have judges... but judges sway towards certain things too.

    I'm kinda tired of all the hate directed towards Addycakes, he's not a bad person, he is just trying to post and be a nice film chap around these parts, you shouldn't ignore the things he says and spite him for saying these things.



    He doesn't want anyone to agree with him. He isn't trying to sway opinion towards his own statements or facts or whatever, everyone is entitled to their own globe (Christopher Waltz speech reference yoohoo).

    Don't be so spiteful kids, play nice.
    Im not disputing that avatar shouldnt of won. I dont really care what won to be honest. What i care about though is how he seems to like to voice his opinion too much, and gets sort of personal about it. such as when he called everyone an idiot for pretty much disagreeing with him.

    Ok hes directing (or supervising) a film. Big deal. It doesnt give him the right to start saying stuff about a film which clearly, people liked in this thread. Kicking up a fuss because inglourious *******s didnt win isnt necessary. Its sort of like if he was at an award ceremony, he wouldnt get up and do a Kanye..

    As you said, and as ive said on numerous occasions to both misawa and the forum, film is subjective. Everyone has their own taste and preferences, whether its on film or music, or books. I liked avatar, adam didnt. Its like me calling inglourious *******s absolute crap (it wasnt but you get my point).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammeth. View Post
    I think its how he puts his points across which annoys everyone. I happen to agree that Avatar shouldnt have won Best Picture or Best Direction, however to say that anyone who disagrees with his opnion are idiots is hugely disrespectful. Maybe if he learned to put his points across with a certain manner of decency he would gain a lot more respect from members who would be certainly more willing to listen to what he has to say. You gain respect by being respectful.
    He does have a point though, as crude as it may have been put across.

    Quote Originally Posted by Misawa
    Anyone who disagrees with Avatar being the worst nominee amongst the listed films in both winning categories is quite simply an idiot.
    He shouldn't have used the word 'idiot', I'll agree with that, but I can see where he's coming from. Addycakes is obviously angry, or he has probably come to accept this, that the awards ceremony is basically just a hash of celebs given golden statues and ramble on about thanks and whatnot.

    Then again, Avatar was the worst nominee in most cases. In the Best Picture category, anyone with half a brain would have seen any other superior film. Given the nominees, it would have been The Hurt Locker. I haven't even seen it but I know that Avatar is largely inferior.

    Still don't think you should've used idiot, although I can't think of much terminology to describe the same thing without offending someone.

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    ALL HAIL LORD MISAWA.

    To be honest, Avatar met my expectations. Enjoyable for CGI, truly stunning. Story was lacking, given. It reminded me of Pocahontas, District 9 and what the hell is that kiddy version of Avatar? Anyway, Avatar didn't go above, nor below what I expected.

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