Free transport to under 18's

[Seatherny]

They get off their backsides then and go out and get a job.

I forgot getting a job (especially right now) was very easy. :rolleyes:

Yeah EMA does get wasted, but many do use it for good things and its unfair to take it away from some who use it for the good because some morons use it on alcohol every time.

Besides many do use it for travelling. Busses in Manchester are no longer as cheap as they used to be so its a benefit for students there.

Not only that, EMA is a incentive for students to attend college. I don't see why people should be paid money to get free education but meh, their loss for not using it. In countries where you have to pay for education, thats where they realise how important education is. Here its free, so no one seems to give a crap. :rolleyes:

[-:Undertaker:-]

No.. it actually keeps alot of people in education. I mean, if you want to encourage people to drop out and aim for a simple factory job, fair enough.

Obviously theres people against it, most of which don't get EMA themselves, but it does keep people in education and everybody knows it, it pays for travel, trips, and other things, and obviously is spent at weekends as well. It's only supposed to be an encouragement to attend college and do well.

So EMA comes before education? - does this country have any hope in hell if people are putting £30 a week ahead of education and bettering themselves?

I forgot getting a job (especially right now) was very easy. :rolleyes:

Yeah EMA does get wasted, but many do use it for good things and its unfair to take it away from some who use it for the good because some morons use it on alcohol every time.

Besides many do use it for travelling. Busses in Manchester are no longer as cheap as they used to be so its a benefit for students there.

Not only that, EMA is a incentive for students to attend college. I don't see why people should be paid money to get free education but meh, their loss for not using it. In countries where you have to pay for education, thats where they realise how important education is. Here its free, so no one seems to give a crap. :rolleyes:

You can get a job, no you can't walk into one but you can get shop jobs pretty easily although it can depend on where you live;- thats life, sometimes theres job shortages and sometimes theres not. It is not up to the state to fund people. On the last bit, as I said before; if people are seriously putting EMA before education then we have no hope.

That is a trait from the welfare state we have, people don't care if they can't do better for themselves because 'the government will look after me'.

[Jxhn]

No, you pay your own way and the state shouldn't pay you. Kids already get £30 a week from doing nothing, and thats more than enough for transport. If not, then you do what your parents and grandparents did and get a job. If people are struggling then ideally taxes should be lowered. Its all very simple but goes in one ear and out the other with our politicians. All people seem to think about these days is 'memememememe' and all that matters is that they get everything free for nothing, wrong.

Kids under 16 can't get EMA or a job.
So they should walk?

[-:Undertaker:-]

Kids under 16 can't get EMA or a job.
So they should walk?

So now you are proposing kids under 16 now also get EMA? - I don't see your point at all.

EDIT: Oh I see, yeah well you know none of it makes sense at all. EMA also puts people off trying to get a job because they think 'well why bother because I get my £30 a week anyway for doing nothing.

[Tash.]

So now you are proposing kids under 16 now also get EMA? - I don't see your point at all.

EDIT: Oh I see, yeah well you know none of it makes sense at all. EMA also puts people off trying to get a job because they think 'well why bother because I get my £30 a week anyway for doing nothing.

Actually that is very untrue. I knew people when I was at college who got an amount of EMA and also worked. It's very unfair what you're doing here, you're tarring everyone with the same brush.. not everyone spends their EMA on booze and clothes, and not everyone who gets EMA simply goes to college in order to get it. I personally don't think there's anything wrong with people spending a part of their EMA on clothes because you do actually have to have clothes to wear to college you know. And I actually know of a person who was literally living on the streets and he attended college to learn and because he needed that EMA payment to live on. So before you start saying how it's not the governments purpose to provide this money, for these sorts of people yes it is and i'd never begrudge them that money. As you said above it's not easy to walk into a shop job for everyone, some people don't have the confidence to work in a busy shop, they might have anxiety issues and some people just don't have the people skills. What are they supposed to do?

[-:Undertaker:-]

Actually that is very untrue. I knew people when I was at college who got an amount of EMA and also worked. It's very unfair what you're doing here, you're tarring everyone with the same brush.. not everyone spends their EMA on booze and clothes, and not everyone who gets EMA simply goes to college in order to get it. I personally don't think there's anything wrong with people spending a part of their EMA on clothes because you do actually have to have clothes to wear to college you know. And I actually know of a person who was literally living on the streets and he attended college to learn and because he needed that EMA payment to live on. So before you start saying how it's not the governments purpose to provide this money, for these sorts of people yes it is and i'd never begrudge them that money. As you said above it's not easy to walk into a shop job for everyone, some people don't have the confidence to work in a busy shop, they might have anxiety issues and some people just don't have the people skills. What are they supposed to do?

Thats life mate, not up to the taxpayer to pave their way in life. You don't gain confidence if you stay in a shell. EMA in general gets wasted, the vast majority of it and its as simple as that. I know EMA didn't play a part in me going to college/sixth form and quite frankly if anyone puts EMA before their education their not going to go very far in life at all now, are they.

[AlexOC]

I think we should get free transport. Although 80p for me at the moment dosent sound much, thats £8 to school and back for my mum on top of the £25 dinner money. After your 18, you might have a job, more income and can support travel expences more yourself.

[Jam]

School transport should be free, those who have little money are paying for their children to go to school which is compulsory, so it makes sence for the travel to it should be free.

[Geraint]

School transport should be free, those who have little money are paying for their children to go to school which is compulsory, so it makes sence for the travel to it should be free.

My transport is free. :S

[leah]

I think we should all get free transport, should be included in taxes. Also yeah buses and that aren't safe at all, ive heard about being getting stabbed and all sorts on buses and the driver does nothing :S