UKIP to call for a ban on wearing a burka.

[Seatherny]

Who created the Taliban. People should go find out.

[AgnesIO]

Well it's not a threat really, 'terrorists' are simply a false image conjured by the government to give society an enemy. Al Qaeda aren't responsible for terorrist attacks - though that doesn't excuse people who believe they are and decide martyrdom is their path. Terrorism is a fallacy used for social cohesion. I am not one to believe in conspiracies, but the major 'attack' blamed on Osama bin Laden - 9/11 - was a false flag attack and this has been proven over and over, the thermate (thermite) found in the rubble, the way the girders in the middle of the WTCs have obvious signs of cutting, the fact that it would take several planes (made from aluminium) to take down a steel building.

Sorry to have derailed the topic but there has been enough of this now.

Are you claiming that there are no such people as terrorists and they are simply figments of the goverments imagination? :S

[Barmi]

This is why we shouldn't give UKIP power.

That is all.

[-:Undertaker:-]

As we can clearly see from posts like above, and throughout this thread - the people incharge with views such as these are the ones who treat us like second class citzens of our own country because they are too afraid of upsetting the extremist parts of a minority. And they wonder why the BNP keep gaining support?

[Neversoft]

The UK Independence Party is considering a call to ban the wearing of burkas, it has been reported.

Good call.

[Wig44.]

Are you claiming that there are no such people as terrorists and they are simply figments of the goverments imagination? :S

A simple way of putting it. There is no Al Qaida. There is no islamic army.

[AgnesIO]

A simple way of putting it. There is no Al Qaida. There is no islamic army.

Of course there is a bloody Al Qaida - what planet are you on?

Are you now saynig there is no ETA?

[Wig44.]

Of course there is a bloody Al Qaida - what planet are you on?

Are you now saynig there is no ETA?

Earth. You can't respect people's opinions at all, simply because you don't understand them. Terrorism is a myth, some people may imitate them but the so called war on terorrism is just another way to bring profits in to the pocket of the rich elite.

For instance, pre US controlled-Afghanistan produced almost no opium, with US control it supplied 80% of the worlds supply around 1999-2000. Then the taliban burned all the opium fields in 2000. How did the USA respond? They (the US government) carried out 9/11 on their own people, and used that as an excuse to invade. Through US control they have managed to push production back up to 80%.

You know that for a society to exist it needs an enemy, right? Cohesion through conflict. At least, having an enemy draws attention away from the government. The UK and the USA have conjured this myth of Al Qaeda so they can justify their wars to the people.

Now, pockets of individuals who believed there was a terrorist movement actually idiolize these people, therefore there are pockets of 'terrorists'.

The motive behind this myth? Preserving the establishment. The anti terorrism measures and the huge power the establishment has due to these measures is simply for self-preservation.

[-:Undertaker:-]

While I don't agree with the extent of what Wig is saying, its true that the terrorist threat has been over-done to justify taking away civil liberties and to justify unjust wars such as the invasion of Iraq, Michael Moores Farenheit 9/11 provides excellent examples of how the Bush Administration took the terrorist threat and turned it into something far bigger than it actually was to justify toppling Saddam Hussein and introducing laws which in a pre-terror world would never of seen the light of day because they are simply wrong and do not have a place in a free and democratic nation.

The same equally applies to our own government and councils and how they have used and still use terrorist laws for a number of trivial things.

[AgnesIO]

Earth. You can't respect people's opinions at all, simply because you don't understand them. Terrorism is a myth, some people may imitate them but the so called war on terorrism is just another way to bring profits in to the pocket of the rich elite.

For instance, pre US controlled-Afghanistan produced almost no opium, with US control it supplied 80% of the worlds supply around 1999-2000. Then the taliban burned all the opium fields in 2000. How did the USA respond? They (the US government) carried out 9/11 on their own people, and used that as an excuse to invade. Through US control they have managed to push production back up to 80%.

You know that for a society to exist it needs an enemy, right? Cohesion through conflict. At least, having an enemy draws attention away from the government. The UK and the USA have conjured this myth of Al Qaeda so they can justify their wars to the people.

Now, pockets of individuals who believed there was a terrorist movement actually idiolize these people, therefore there are pockets of 'terrorists'.

The motive behind this myth? Preserving the establishment. The anti terorrism measures and the huge power the establishment has due to these measures is simply for self-preservation.

So ETA, Al Qaeda etc are all myths. Yes?