Super-fast broadband' in UK homes by 2017 - Tories

[Blinger1]

We are on 24Mits/s (25gb download) and that costs 90 bucks a month which is "cheap" =/. Thats just an example of what we have in Australia.

[PaulMacC]

I am currently running at 54mbps watever tht means.

Your not, your wireless adapter can probably accept a 54mbps signal but your probably get far under that.

[StefanWolves]

Interesting, 2017... considering there has to be an election every 5 years, they are making a promise for a year that they may not even be in power :rolleyes:

Evidently just a response to Labour giving free internet/laptops to needy homes.

At the end of the day this is just pre-election fodder, Labour will do things to get the vote and then the Tories will try and get one over on them, although at the end of the day menial things such as these will never happen anyway because whatever Government we elect will have more important things to deal with.

Don't fix what isn't broken, vote Labour.

War in Afghan
War in Iraq
Two year recession
Worst schooling system in Europe.
Failing Healthcare
Increased migration
Expenses Scandal

Ye, Labour aren't broken?

Don't get me wrong they have done great in the past before the recession in other areas like the Economy, but don't make me laugh, this country needs a new drection.

Fix wht is broken, vote Conservative.

[Hecktix]

Lovin' how you put the Recession and the Expenses Scandal to Labour's blame.

The recession was worldwide and was going to happen whoever was in power, it could have been a lot worse than it was, I mean, we didn't go into hyperinflation or anything and lets face it things have been getting better moneywise for quite a while.

The MP expenses were based on parliamentary rules (or lack of) from years ago, nothing to do with Labour and if you read the reports properly, more Tory MPs abused the expenses system than Labour MPs. It was a system put in years ago (therefore can't blame Labour) and as every single human being would, the MPs got greedy in this materialistic age of post modernity.

You really can't put these two things to Labours blame, as for the other things:

- Healthcare

We have one of the best healthcare systems in the world, although other countries may have better hospitals with more equipment, of course they do, because patients pay. I know someone who was in Berlin on a stag party, got knocked down some concrete stairs and was in intensive care for a month. His mother got a £50,000 bill as the insurance company wouldn't pay out as he had consumed alcohol (by the way insurance companies judge "alcohol consumption" by the particular countries drink driving limit, which in Europe is 0% alcohol is allowed before driving), so unless you want to start paying thousands of pounds for your life, I'd stop moaning about the healthcare system because the only way we can afford to improve it is to increase taxes or make people pay.

- Education

There will be plans to improve education whoever gets voted in, unless you vote UKIP or BNP they'll be two busy getting rid of all the non-whites.

- War

I'm gonna be honest, but if you think Michael Howard and the Conservative Party wouldn't have participated in the Afghan or Iraqi invasions then you really don't know much about Politics. Whoever was in power would have followed the yanks, no matter what.

Vote Labour, the tories will only raise your taxes and abolish support for the lower classes.

[xxMATTGxx]

Oh really? Sorry but I have heard these plans too many times. Just give us the god dam speeds then. The whole of the UK doesn't even have broadband yet, give them the broadband and the ideal speeds then make it "Super-fast".

[Jordy]

Lovin' how you put the Recession and the Expenses Scandal to Labour's blame.

The recession was worldwide and was going to happen whoever was in power, it could have been a lot worse than it was, I mean, we didn't go into hyperinflation or anything and lets face it things have been getting better moneywise for quite a while.

The MP expenses were based on parliamentary rules (or lack of) from years ago, nothing to do with Labour and if you read the reports properly, more Tory MPs abused the expenses system than Labour MPs. It was a system put in years ago (therefore can't blame Labour) and as every single human being would, the MPs got greedy in this materialistic age of post modernity.

You really can't put these two things to Labours blame, as for the other things:

- Healthcare

We have one of the best healthcare systems in the world, although other countries may have better hospitals with more equipment, of course they do, because patients pay. I know someone who was in Berlin on a stag party, got knocked down some concrete stairs and was in intensive care for a month. His mother got a £50,000 bill as the insurance company wouldn't pay out as he had consumed alcohol (by the way insurance companies judge "alcohol consumption" by the particular countries drink driving limit, which in Europe is 0% alcohol is allowed before driving), so unless you want to start paying thousands of pounds for your life, I'd stop moaning about the healthcare system because the only way we can afford to improve it is to increase taxes or make people pay.

- Education

There will be plans to improve education whoever gets voted in, unless you vote UKIP or BNP they'll be two busy getting rid of all the non-whites.

- War

I'm gonna be honest, but if you think Michael Howard and the Conservative Party wouldn't have participated in the Afghan or Iraqi invasions then you really don't know much about Politics. Whoever was in power would have followed the yanks, no matter what.

Vote Labour, the tories will only raise your taxes and abolish support for the lower classes.

As for the expenses scandal, the Tories may of made the most outrageous claims however David Cameron forced ALL his MPs to may the money back or they wouldn't be allowed to stand for the Conservative party.

Where have the Conservatives said they will "abolish support" for the lower classes? Get in the real world, just because the Conservatives are traditionally aimed at the Middle/Upper classes doesn't mean they're going to kill the working class for all they've got. Bare in mind this is a different Conservatives to the past anyway.

"UKIP Getting rid of whites", what rubbish. They've never said they'd get rid of anyone, of course they may get rid of EU nationals if we did leave the EU, but if they are British Citizens then they will remain in the UK regardless of their past and skin colour. (99% of eastern europeans are white btw).

Also you say "I'd stop moaning about the healthcare system because the only way we can afford to improve it is to increase taxes or make people pay.", you seem to be against the Conservatives increasing taxes though? *Removed*[QUOTE=Oli;6274957]Interesting, 2017... considering there has to be an election every 5 years, they are making a promise for a year that they may not even be in power :rolleyes:

Evidently just a response to Labour giving free internet/laptops to needy homes.

Don't fix what isn't broken, vote Labour. [/QUOTE]Not really, if the Conservatives were voted into power in 2010, they would then have the project going on during the next five years they're in government. If they didn't get into power in the next election, seeing as most the money had already been spent and there was only two years of the project left, then the project would not be scrapped as it would be an enormous waste of money so far. Throughout politics, this goes on, governments which get into power tend to carry on previous government projects as it's too much of a waste to ditch them at a late stage.

If Britain isn't broken why does the Labour party feel the need to outline lots of changes when they've been in power for the past 13 years?

Anyone could promise this.. Most of the UK are on 2mb+ yet I only manage 1mb, and got .5 not too long ago. Of course, they'd have to win two consecutive terms to fully put this through of course..

I've never heard such rubbish. How can you say "Anyone could promise this", yes they could but that's how elections happen. Parties pledge things, none of it is really promises and in the past, no one has ever stuck exactly to their manifesto is but you have to have some confidence in parties. Any party could pledge anything it doesn't mean you have to shoot down EVERYTHING. It's more than Labour is pledging anyway

As for this, I think it's important we get 100mb internet, although I think it could probably be done by 2015 if they really pushed for it, it's theoretically possible in many places atm, it's just the technology is so expensive at the moment it isn't economically viable.

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[StefanWolves]

As for the expenses scandal, the Tories may of made the most outrageous claims however David Cameron forced ALL his MPs to may the money back or they wouldn't be allowed to stand for the Conservative party.

Where have the Conservatives said they will "abolish support" for the lower classes? Get in the real world, just because the Conservatives are traditionally aimed at the Middle/Upper classes doesn't mean they're going to kill the working class for all they've got. Bare in mind this is a different Conservatives to the past anyway.

"UKIP Getting rid of whites", what rubbish. They've never said they'd get rid of anyone, of course they may get rid of EU nationals if we did leave the EU, but if they are British Citizens then they will remain in the UK regardless of their past and skin colour. (99% of eastern europeans are white btw).

Also you say "I'd stop moaning about the healthcare system because the only way we can afford to improve it is to increase taxes or make people pay.", you seem to be against the Conservatives increasing taxes though? Hypocrite.

Not really, if the Conservatives were voted into power in 2010, they would then have the project going on during the next five years they're in government. If they didn't get into power in the next election, seeing as most the money had already been spent and there was only two years of the project left, then the project would not be scrapped as it would be an enormous waste of money so far. Throughout politics, this goes on, governments which get into power tend to carry on previous government projects as it's too much of a waste to ditch them at a late stage.

If Britain isn't broken why does the Labour party feel the need to outline lots of changes when they've been in power for the past 13 years?

I've never heard such rubbish. How can you say "Anyone could promise this", yes they could but that's how elections happen. Parties pledge things, none of it is really promises and in the past, no one has ever stuck exactly to their manifesto is but you have to have some confidence in parties. Any party could pledge anything it doesn't mean you have to shoot down EVERYTHING. It's more than Labour is pledging anyway

As for this, I think it's important we get 100mb internet, although I think it could probably be done by 2015 if they really pushed for it, it's theoretically possible in many places atm, it's just the technology is so expensive at the moment it isn't economically viable.

This has saved me from getting an infraction, if I were to reply to your post Oli I would have got in trouble.

Expenses scandal was MAINLY Labours fault (yes conservatives too, but they paid back most if not all). Just think we paid for some MPs husband to watch pr0n.

[AgnesIO]

Tories have always talked out their arse. Funny how they always have different, revolutionary ideas - yet they never seem to happen :S

And who the hell blamed Labour for the recession :S That started in Margaret Thatchers time.. (however you spell her first name lol)

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All vote for Deries (my party) - I promise 1gb speeds by 2050 - assuming you don't vote me out of power. If you do I won't do it.

[StefanWolves]

I don't think theyd announce something on Sunday morning TV with the intention of not doing it.

[Jordy]

Tories have always talked out their arse. Funny how they always have different, revolutionary ideas - yet they never seem to happen :S

And who the hell blamed Labour for the recession :S That started in Margaret Thatchers time.. (however you spell her first name lol)

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All vote for Deries (my party) - I promise 1gb speeds by 2050 - assuming you don't vote me out of power. If you do I won't do it.

lol what's this based on? Thatcher had revolutionary ideas, and when she came to power, it was certainly revolution whether you liked the ideas or not. The last time the Conservatives got fresh into power was with Thatcher in 1979 so what's this crap your talking about it "always" being revolutionary and "never happening". David Cameron is hardly promising a "revolution" anyway, the only parties offering that is UKIP or the BNP.

As for the recession, that was a completely different recession lmao, you don't really think it had been going on about 20 years?

And 1GB speeds in 2050 is madness, Japan and South Korea will be getting speeds like that in just a few years time, I hope to god we get them much before then.

I do not wish to get sidetracked into a Thatcher debate btw.