If Pinocchio said 'My nose is about to grow' what would happen?

[Black_Apalachi]

It's not a prediction, because he obviously knows when he lies his nose will grow. So he says it will grow, which at that precise time is the truth.

Yeah but why is it the truth...? :badgrin:

[AlexOC]

Yeah but why is it the truth...? :badgrin:

Because he knows the consequence of lying is his nose growing, so hes knows by saying it will grow that will be a lie, so he knows it WILL grow so when he says it its a truth.

I DONT KNOW!! OKAY get on xbox

[Black_Apalachi]

But if it turns out to be true then his nose shouldn't have grown. It can't be false then true, it can only be one or the other.

And I think my brother's just gone to bed so I'll play when I get back from the pub after the footy tomorrow lol.

[AlexOC]

But if it turns out to be true then his nose shouldn't have grown. It can't be false then true, it can only be one or the other.

And I think my brother's just gone to bed so I'll play when I get back from the pub after the footy tomorrow lol.

You are thinking about things in the future, you need to think what should happen at that split second, its simple really Rob.

ok msn then come on!

[Black_Apalachi]

Lmao that's exactly why I'm saying it can't be both Everybody is saying it is a lie but then it's the truth afterwards. I'm saying it can't be both as it's one or the other in a split second. The fact is, it's a never-ending argument.

[Stryderman]

I dislike this paradox

[Wig44.]

It grows - when he says it's going to grow, he knows full well it isn't, therefore this is a lie. After this, the lie causes his nose to grow. They are two seperate events.

[N!ck]

There would be an extremely small pause due to the finite speed of light and then his nose would grow.

[Tash.]

I reckon it'd be very easy to sit on the fence with this, but I aren't going to. So yes, I think his nose would grow. He doesn't know his nose was going to grow unless he knows it's a lie. Therefore he told one and his knows grows.

[Black_Apalachi]

It grows - when he says it's going to grow, he knows full well it isn't, therefore this is a lie. After this, the lie causes his nose to grow. They are two seperate events.

There would be an extremely small pause due to the finite speed of light and then his nose would grow.

I reckon it'd be very easy to sit on the fence with this, but I aren't going to. So yes, I think his nose would grow. He doesn't know his nose was going to grow unless he knows it's a lie. Therefore he told one and his knows grows.

BUT...

But then that means he is telling the truth so surely it wouldn't grow?

This debate will never stop going round in circles I'll close it soon don't worry lol