BNP Members vote to allow non-whites to join

[Seatherny]

Doesn't this totally just defeat the whole object of the BNP..?
I'm sure undertaker will have something to say about this!

I guess they did it voluntarily as it looks better than having the court force them to.

[Jordy]

THE BNP PARTY IS STUPID. They are BRITISH only, and I can bet that asians NOT from britain join. They've only allowed it so they can get bigger. It's a stupid party anyway, and I hope it doesn't take charge.

They did it because they've been forced to by the courts.

I don't really see how it matters either way, obviously the BNP hasn't changed, no one is saying they have, they've just changed it so they can exist which is fair enough. Non-whites aren't going to join the part regardless so what does it matter?

[Sammeth.]

If I wasn't white I would join just to annoy them. Irl troll.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Doesn't this totally just defeat the whole object of the BNP..?
I'm sure undertaker will have something to say about this!

Indeed.

While I do not agree with membership of something or somebody being considered job/role based on their sexuality, race or any other factor, I find this stinks of hypocrisy from the ruling elite and futher deepens support for the British National Party. Labour spent taxpayer money according to Nick Griffin on a team of lawyers to chase this issue down and Nick Griffin has yet again averted their attempts and i'm glad of that.

..and why does it stink of hypocrisy?

Because the Conservatives have black-only/women-only candidate shortlists in force and so does the Labour Party. Not to mention the legislation the Labour Party has brought in over the past decade which places people based on their minority background in a job/position rather than based on their qualifications. It was also recently revealed that the Labour Party purposely engineered the social/racial makeup of this country on purpose to try and basically get under the skin of the right-wing in this country and to support Labour voting strategy.

One rule for the ruling elite, another for the BNP and anyone who has a view that doesn't tow the offical line which was only proven a few years back when 'cast-iron' Dave called UKIP racist, despite the fact UKIP do not even have any policies based on race unlike the two ruling parties and the BNP. I'm suprised here why Labour supporters on this forum and Conservative supporters also aren't calling for their parties to re-consider their actions because if the BNP are racist, then the Labour Party and the Tories are sure as hell as equally racist.

As for me, i'll continue to support UKIP because I find them the decent party out of the whole lot of them who actually want a Britain based on what you have done, not who you are - to hell with the rest of the hypocritical crooks.

[Tash.]

Indeed.

While I do not agree with membership of something or somebody being considered job/role based on their sexuality, race or any other factor, I find this stinks of hypocrisy from the ruling elite and futher deepens support for the British National Party. Labour spent taxpayer money according to Nick Griffin on a team of lawyers to chase this issue down and Nick Griffin has yet again averted their attempts and i'm glad of that.

..and why does it stink of hypocrisy?

Because the Conservatives have black-only/women-only candidate shortlists in force and so does the Labour Party. Not to mention the legislation the Labour Party has brought in over the past decade which places people based on their minority background in a job/position rather than based on their qualifications. It was also recently revealed that the Labour Party purposely engineered the social/racial makeup of this country on purpose to try and basically get under the skin of the right-wing in this country and to support Labour voting strategy.

One rule for the ruling elite, another for the BNP and anyone who has a view that doesn't tow the offical line which was only proven a few years back when 'cast-iron' Dave called UKIP racist, despite the fact UKIP do not even have any policies based on race unlike the two ruling parties and the BNP. I'm suprised here why Labour supporters on this forum and Conservative supporters also aren't calling for their parties to re-consider their actions because if the BNP are racist, then the Labour Party and the Tories are sure as hell as equally racist.

As for me, i'll continue to support UKIP because I find them the decent party out of the whole lot of them who actually want a Britain based on what you have done, not who you are - to hell with the rest of the hypocritical crooks.

Maybe because it's late, or maybe because i'm just dense and don't get this.. i'll let you decide, but what?

How are Labour and the Conservatives both as racist as the BNP? They do not say that a member of a certain race cannot become a member of their party which is what the BNP had in their rules. So please, enlighten me, how are Labour and the Conservatives racist on those same terms? Can't wait to hear this..

[-:Undertaker:-]

Maybe because it's late, or maybe because i'm just dense and don't get this.. i'll let you decide, but what?

How are Labour and the Conservatives both as racist as the BNP? They do not say that a member of a certain race cannot become a member of their party which is what the BNP had in their rules. So please, enlighten me, how are Labour and the Conservatives racist on those same terms? Can't wait to hear this..

I just said then; they both have the policy that some short-list candidates for potential seats have to be black/asian/gay/women which is were the recent outcry from Tory grassroots has come from because the whole idea behind Conservatism is that you get a job based on how you fight for it (aka your qualifications) and not who you are.

So while you wish to dish everything off that the BNP does as racist (despite the fact none of these policies are actually genuine racism from Lab/Con/BNP because racism is hatred of a race) you'd best be taking a look at the discrimatory policies of Labour and the Conservatives who are the actual crooks, or racists in your logic, in power.

For example, I have often heard the Labour MP Diane Abbott call the British National Party, yet she has apparently called for all-black candidate shortlists for the last 20 years. Is she also racist?

[Black_Apalachi]

Even if I was a fan beforehand (which I wasn't), all I see now is a party that has walked all over its own ideologies to fit in and look less monstrous. Not exactly what I look for in a party I must say

[Tash.]

I just said then; they both have the policy that some short-list candidates for potential seats have to be black/asian/gay/women which is were the recent outcry from Tory grassroots has come from because the whole idea behind Conservatism is that you get a job based on how you fight for it (aka your qualifications) and not who you are.

So while you wish to dish everything off that the BNP does as racist (despite the fact none of these policies are actually genuine racism from Lab/Con/BNP because racism is hatred of a race) you'd best be taking a look at the discrimatory policies of Labour and the Conservatives who are the actual crooks, or racists in your logic, in power.

For example, I have often heard the Labour MP Diane Abbott call the British National Party, yet she has apparently called for all-black candidate shortlists for the last 20 years. Is she also racist?

I read what you wrote, I just disagree. What you're explaining there is clearly wrong, nobody should get a job just because they are part of a minority. But the Labour Party and the Conservatives are not excluding people. The BNP were/technically still are. They were doing this based on the colour of a persons skin, which is generally accepted as being racist. You can disagree if you like, I don't mind, but it is racism however you look at it.

No she isn't racist, she's just not very bright. I see the morals behind what she wants, she wants to make things more equal in government so that everyone is potentially represented. Unfortunately doing this isn't going to achieve that and actually makes people like you angry, and rightly so.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I read what you wrote, I just disagree. What you're explaining there is clearly wrong, nobody should get a job just because they are part of a minority. But the Labour Party and the Conservatives are not excluding people. The BNP were/technically still are. They were doing this based on the colour of a persons skin, which is generally accepted as being racist. You can disagree if you like, I don't mind, but it is racism however you look at it.

No she isn't racist, she's just not very bright. I see the morals behind what she wants, she wants to make things more equal in government so that everyone is potentially represented. Unfortunately doing this isn't going to achieve that and actually makes people like you angry, and rightly so.

And you wonder why the BNP gather support?

You support it one way, but not the other way - I find that hypocritical and quite disgusting because I hate the notion that anyone can be chosen for a job based on their race, disability, sexuality or any other factor related. The Labour Party and the Conservative Party by having all women/all black shortlists are excluding people, because the people who are excluded are not women/black/gay. Therefore their policies are racist under your own logic.

Oh so shes not racist because shes a member of the Labour Party you are basically telling me, so its bad, bad, wrong, wrong, racist, racist for Nick Griffin & the BNP to have a policy based on race, but for Diane Abbott to demand all-black shortlists thats just 'not very bright'.

It is your type of view that turns people to extremism, it is a great shame. It really is.

[Tash.]

And you wonder why the BNP gather support?

You support it one way, but not the other way - I find that hypocritical and quite disgusting because I hate the notion that anyone can be chosen for a job based on their race, disability, sexuality or any other factor related. The Labour Party and the Conservative Party by having all women/all black shortlists are excluding people, because the people who are excluded are not women/black/gay. Therefore their policies are racist under your own logic.

Oh so shes not racist because shes a member of the Labour Party you are basically telling me, so its bad, bad, wrong, wrong, racist, racist for Nick Griffin & the BNP to have a policy based on race, but for Diane Abbott to demand all-black shortlists thats just 'not very bright'.

It is your type of view that turns people to extremism, it is a great shame. It really is.

I really love how you twist what I wrote. If you actually bothered to get off your high horse and read what I wrote I was agreeing with you. I don't think that any political party should be recruiting people based on their gender, age, race, colour etc. I did say that was wrong and stupid. What I meant was, and I think you know this but chose to try and make me look hypocritical, they are not saying "oh you're white, you can't join". In fact if they did say that there would be absolute uproar. Yet for some reason the BNP have gotten away with it for years. Finally, something has been done about it.

I fail to see how my view on anything turns people to extremism, you know relatively little on my views so lets not get into this argument again please If you want to however, I have a few choice assumptions I could attach to your views.