Thought Police- Right or wrong?

[Niall!]

What on earth are you on about? I have never said anything along those lines?

Allow me to translate for you.

While you could say it's art or something, I'd say that's besides the point. If it stops people doing the real thing that's surely a good thing? I never understood what good could come of banning violent video games a few years back. You have to be a bit sick and twisted to play them, but what's the problem if it stops them from murdering people in real life? It's censorship tbh.

Your argument is invalid.

[Jordy]

Allow me to translate for you.



Your argument is invalid.

Not at all. I think underage hentai should be legal seeing as it serves as a good alternative to child pornography. If underage hentai (Which doesn't harm anyone), stops people hunting for the real porn, I believe that is a good thing. However I also think you have to be a bit twisted to look at underage hentai, but it should be legal.

That's why I think banning underage hentai is censorship. I also said that the fact it's "art" is besides the point seeing as underage hentai is effective in deterring people from real underage pornography.

While it is irrelevant to this subject, I am not against video games in anyway, I've never said or believed they encourage violence. However killing people is slightly different to looking at child pornography it has to be said (Both incredibly wrong though).

[Misawa]

I am STRONGLY against the notion that violence in the media, i.e. films and video games influences children to committ acts of violence. I am a believer that you already have to have a screw loose to be influenced, in which case but they are the least of someone's worries.

If film could influence someone to kill, then I would be a serial killer. I watched my first horror film at age 4. I was renting Alien Resurrection over and over by 8 at the video rental store. I have seen thousands of extremely violent and disturbing films and I thrive on them. I worked for 6 months as a forensic photographer and took pictures of suicides and RTCs 5 days a week. I've only killed two people. I am a living, breathing testament to perfect sanity under the viewing of the grotesque.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Video games/movies that are violent do not create killers, people need to take some god damn responsibility for once and stop blaming everything but themselves. If you kill somebody, you took that choice to kill them - not GTA, not Scream or any other movie or game.

[Japan]

Looking at naked children having sex is, in my eyes, child pornography. Doesn't matter if they are 2D cartoons. No normal person would ever feel the need to draw/look at things like that.
Anyone who says this man has done nothing wrong is simply advocating pedophilia.

[Arch]

I've just skimmed through what was said in this thread and i believe that it is harsh. Its sick that he does like it but i mean its personal taste and aslong as he doesn't act on it i should be fine.

[Tash.]

Looking at naked children having sex is, in my eyes, child pornography. Doesn't matter if they are 2D cartoons. No normal person would ever feel the need to draw/look at things like that.
Anyone who says this man has done nothing wrong is simply advocating pedophilia.

I have to agree with this. Although looking at this is not as bad as looking at the real thing you have to question whether or not he would in future. No normal person would want to look at even a cartoon image of these things.

[kk.]

And what about the people who painted pictures before the 21st century? Or the sculptures of people and children wearing just a leaf? Or the two cherubs?

Ridiculous.

[Black_Apalachi]

Not at all. I think underage hentai should be legal seeing as it serves as a good alternative to child pornography. If underage hentai (Which doesn't harm anyone), stops people hunting for the real porn, I believe that is a good thing. However I also think you have to be a bit twisted to look at underage hentai, but it should be legal.

That's why I think banning underage hentai is censorship. I also said that the fact it's "art" is besides the point seeing as underage hentai is effective in deterring people from real underage pornography.

While it is irrelevant to this subject, I am not against video games in anyway, I've never said or believed they encourage violence. However killing people is slightly different to looking at child pornography it has to be said (Both incredibly wrong though).

That is the worst reason ever to support this man's case. Well, I see what you mean but 'alternative' is an awful word to use because you are basically saying anyone who does this is only not watching real child porn because it's illegal. People like that are no better than the people who actually watch the real thing and if there was a way to point out such people, then I would expect them to be punished in the same way.

I can't say I disagree with the points raised earlier in the thread regarding freedom of expression but still, can you ever imagine somebody possessing such material but also thinking the real thing is disgusting? As Jordy says, it's merely an alternative but that doesn't mean it should be an excuse.

[Catzsy]

Freedom of speech & artistic licence is one thing. Yes taboo subjects are touched upon in films and books but not as graphically as this.


This is what he was jailed for:
A U.S. comic book collector is being sentenced to six months in prison after pleading guilty to importing and possessing Japanese manga books depicting illustrations of child sex and bestiality.
Read More http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...#ixzz0fnL2eOX8

I don't think it is acceptable either and in fact could be used to aid in the 'grooming' of children as if they see in in 'cartoon form' they maybe persuaded that it is in fact okay.