Brown portrays UKIP, BNP and the Conservatives as xenophobes on immigration

[Catzsy]

Jrh2002 Is this positive discrimination?

No I was actually taking your advice from an earlier thread that perhaps Dan and I should agree to disagree as perhaps it was getting a little personal.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Oh lovely, bad-talk the UK, call it a poo hole because of the immigrants, then go off to spain for work, presumably - but i don't know - without a guarantee of a job in a country with stupidly high unemployment, which is only possible because of the EU and then put an EU flag with a nazi symbol in the middle. If you seem to think britain isn't worth being here - why are you?

Hang on a second, you yourself are a self-confessed EU Federalist and would like to see the United Kingdom abolished under a new Europeran Superstate, so its pretty ironic that you are slamming somebody who actually has an ounce of patriotism and loyalty to this country, its culture & its history compared to yourself who would gladly dissolve it tommorow even without the consent of the people.

So I would like to ask you; why are you here alex?

[alexxxxx]

Hang on a second, you yourself are a self-confessed EU Federalist and would like to see the United Kingdom abolished under a new Europeran Superstate, so its pretty ironic that you are slamming somebody who actually has an ounce of patriotism and loyalty to this country, its culture & its history compared to yourself who would gladly dissolve it tommorow even without the consent of the people.

So I would like to ask you; why are you here alex?

i'd never want to see the UK abolished, what a stupid comment. he has no loyalty to the country whatsoever? instead of trying to change the country, he'd rather flee. the eu does not destroy individual cultures, infact its social fund funds cultural projects all over the UK - something you'd rather we didn't do.

i'm still here because i love my country and i want what's best for it - in my view.

[-:Undertaker:-]

i'd never want to see the UK abolished, what a stupid comment. he has no loyalty to the country whatsoever? instead of trying to change the country, he'd rather flee. the eu does not destroy individual cultures, infact its social fund funds cultural projects all over the UK - something you'd rather we didn't do.

i'm still here because i love my country and i want what's best for it - in my view.

He'd rather flee like many already do because they are sick to the back teeth of those in power who hold views very similar to you, we cant remove you and while the country slides deeper and deeper into the red you continue raising our taxes to fund for your wasteful projects while at the same time being totally and utterly corrupt (Mandelson, Barroso). In the past you have said we should create the European superstate thus abolishing the United Kingdom and ending our country and yet you still refuse to accept the idea that people want a say on that. It should not be upto you, the unelected Van Rompuy, the unelected Ashton, the unelected Barroso or thousands of other unelected eurocrats.. we fought two world wars as did people from many countries across the world to fight for the British Empire and the United Kingdom to stop the very thing you want which is a European Superstate.

I know you europhiles are very keen on the historical and cultural argument despite the fact that Europe shares nothing in common with its neighbours, look at any European city - it is a mish mash of different periods and cultures and they all relate barely anything to eachother. The very reason we had wars in Europe was for one single underlying reason and has been throughout history; they all attempted to create a European superstate. Phillip, Hitler, Stalin and his successors all tried creating the very thing you are wanting to create now which is your own little European Empire. Past generations did not want it and we do not want it so how long will it be before you [the left] realises this?, or at least listens to the 'people' as you are so keen on spouting about so often.

The point on the EU funding cultural projects - i'm sorry, but if I gave you £10 to spend on me for the day and you only spent 50p on me and kept the other £9.50 for yourself then in what economical sense or even common sense does that even add up? - it is beyond stupid and its what i'd brand as daylight robbery. So you slam people like Jrh for wanting to leave this country well there you have your reason, because its run by people just like you.

[Hitman]

i'd never want to see the UK abolished, what a stupid comment. he has no loyalty to the country whatsoever? instead of trying to change the country, he'd rather flee. the eu does not destroy individual cultures, infact its social fund funds cultural projects all over the UK - something you'd rather we didn't do.

i'm still here because i love my country and i want what's best for it - in my view.

I'm patriotic about Britain but I'd rather live elsewhere because of how its become. You say he should try and change the country... how exactly? Vote? Not going to make a huge difference I'm afraid... maybe we should promote the UKIP... no, we'll be deemed racist or not politically correct. Sigh.

[jrh2002]

So us tax payers should stop here and keep paying our taxes to a corrupt government who what I would say waste my money all over the place and neglect the people who create the wealth (Tax payers) while we support people who are more than happy with a life on benefits?

Would you fight for this country? Pushing our troops in to an illegal war and thinking we should police the world only for that to make the country a huge terrorist target and to make it even better we let all these so called asylum seekers in to our country who roll up with no identification only for a number of them to start plotting from within. If the country looked after the people who deserve it then I would be here defending it with all my heart and would put my life on the line to look after it. After labour who were meant to be the party of the working man kicking ALL of us tax payers to death (except the ppl who have kids they shouldnt have as they cant afford them but then they get family tax credits). There is no incentive to make something of yourself because as soon as you start to succeed you get penalised but if you sit on your arse and claim benefits you are looked on as a poor unfortunate little soul and get everythnig thrown at you including a nice shiny new laptop :@ I loved my country but how can I defend it in its current state? Its like your super model g/f who left you turning back up wanting you back when shes now a 20 stone scabby old dog with 6 kids from 5 different fathers......

When somebody takes charge who starts making big changes is when I will be able to tell people how much I love my country again (I think this could be a very long time)

[HotelUser]

@Danny and James,
Other parties may contain racist or xenophobic members, though for the life of me I can't ever remember a Conservative or Liberal leader ever denying the Holocaust:rolleyes:

[jrh2002]

@Danny and James,
Other parties may contain racist or xenophobic members, though for the life of me I can't ever remember a Conservative or Liberal leader ever denying the Holocaust:rolleyes:

Nick Griffin back tracked on that crazy idea some time ago but I did say in a different thread the party has no chance of moving forward with a self obsessed person like him in charge. I dont support the BNP but do think they have a number of good policies that could be adapted and made a little more user friendly by the big parties that would be huge vote winners.

[-:Undertaker:-]

@Danny and James,
Other parties may contain racist or xenophobic members, though for the life of me I can't ever remember a Conservative or Liberal leader ever denying the Holocaust:rolleyes:

The only parties that I know of which do not have policies based on race/gender/sexuality and UKIP and possibly the Green Party. The Labour Party, Liberal Democrats, Conservatives and the British National Party all have policies/rules based on one of the above and or numerous of the above. It is hard when its turned around to see through all the propaganda that (possibly) you've been fed by the main parties that you arent all that clean yourselves when it comes to discrimination. As for the holocaust I dont agree with Griffin (who has now changed his view anyway) but I am sorry, we live in a democracy and it is anybodys right to deny a historical event.

[HotelUser]

The only parties that I know of which do not have policies based on race/gender/sexuality and UKIP and possibly the Green Party. The Labour Party, Liberal Democrats, Conservatives and the British National Party all have policies/rules based on one of the above and or numerous of the above. It is hard when its turned around to see through all the propaganda that (possibly) you've been fed by the main parties that you arent all that clean yourselves when it comes to discrimination. As for the holocaust I dont agree with Griffin (who has now changed his view anyway) but I am sorry, we live in a democracy and it is anybodys right to deny a historical event.

It's perfectly within his right to deny a historical event. It's also perfectly fine for the majority of the population to completely reject a political party because it's leader and other key people of the party have made absolutely ridiculous and stupid claims such as: the holocaust didn't happen. The leader reflects the party, and as James said, the BNP wont progress with Nick at the head.