Brown portrays UKIP, BNP and the Conservatives as xenophobes on immigration

[Catzsy]

It is quite amazing really, every single one of those scandals were sorted and the party took direct action straight away. Tom Wise was finished off instantly and ended up in prison, and as Nigel Farage said; good. I have not got to support a party and if the party never took any action then I simply would not support them, I turned my back on the Tories and I can just as easily turn it once again on UKIP. As for the donations party (which we addressed on this forum anyway), they did not do anything immoral or against the law so what exactly is your point?

What I would like to know is why Nick Clegg claims on his expenses for food? - we all have to eat.

I think it's because you keep having a go at the main parties for the same thing and in each case swift direct action has been taken which is exactly the same as UKIP.

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I think it's because you keep having a go at the main parties for the same thing and in each case swift direct action has been taken which is exactly the same as UKIP.

The main parties did not take action though, the MPs involved in flipping houses and so forth were not suspended or any action taken against them.

[Catzsy]

The main parties did not take action though, the MPs involved in flipping houses and so forth were not suspended or any action taken against them.

Examples?

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Examples?

The expenses scandal in which I believe it was over half of parliament involved in it, now yes some did sick to the moral rules and the law itself, others such as Nick Clegg the Liberal Democrat leader claimed for food. The main parties (unlike UKIP) could not and did not suspend those involved because if they had done so, very little of their party would remain. To check on expenses, the Telegraph has a large achieve with details on them all of which some include avoiding capital gains tax and so forth.

[Catzsy]

The expenses scandal in which I believe it was over half of parliament involved in it, now yes some did sick to the moral rules and the law itself, others such as Nick Clegg the Liberal Democrat leader claimed for food. The main parties (unlike UKIP) could not and did not suspend those involved because if they had done so, very little of their party would remain. To check on expenses, the Telegraph has a large achieve with details on them all of which some include avoiding capital gains tax and so forth.

The whole thing was investigated and those who were found to have wrongly claimed were dealt with. I thought you believed in the 'innocent until proved guilty' theory or does that only apply to UKIP?

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The whole thing was investigated and those who were found to have wrongly claimed were dealt with. I thought you believed in the 'innocent until proved guilty' theory or does that only apply to UKIP?

I do believe in the innocent until proven guilty, but the fact is that with some MPs expenses they clearly acted both morally and lawfully wrong and the main parties took no action against them. The expenses were there, many were clearly in the wrong and had they been part of a private business they would of been sacked on the spot for twisting the expenses system like they did. The main parties did not act, UKIP did. If UKIP hadn't, I would be blaming all of them. I called when the scandal was on, for the Queen to dissolve parliament and for every single MP to be investigated by the police - that is what should of happened, I dont care whether you are UKIP, Labour, BNP, Green, Liberal Democrat or Tory - if you act in such a way with public money then you should be at the very least, investigated.

Many MPs got away with it and are now retiring on their golden plated pension.

[Catzsy]

Dan, there was an independent enquiry and all found to have were dealt with. You cannot say 'lawful' because the the courts have yet to make their verdict. It's not all black and white there is deceit and corruption within all the parties much as you defend and prevaricate about UKIP. They are no different.

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Dan, there was an independent enquiry and all found to have were dealt with. You cannot say 'lawful' because the the courts have yet to make their verdict. It's not all black and white there is deceit and corruption within all the parties much as you defend and prevaricate about UKIP. They are no different.

I am sorry but some of them MPs got away with daylight theft, if that was any normal business then they would of been sacked immediately. UKIP on the other hand was not involved in the Westminister scandal but has had issues with people like Tom Wise in the past, who they suspended and threw out. They took the action, the others [Labour, Conservatives & Liberal Democrats] did not as many of the MPs within them parties were merely told to 'repay the money back' - that is not good enough. UKIP is clean and has acted swiftly in issues like this, the BNP and the Green Party also appear to be clean.

[Catzsy]

I am sorry but some of them MPs got away with daylight theft, if that was any normal business then they would of been sacked immediately. UKIP on the other hand was not involved in the Westminister scandal but has had issues with people like Tom Wise in the past, who they suspended and threw out. They took the action, the others [Labour, Conservatives & Liberal Democrats] did not as many of the MPs within them parties were merely told to 'repay the money back' - that is not good enough. UKIP is clean and has acted swiftly in issues like this, the BNP and the Green Party also appear to be clean.

Appear being the right word. Let's hope they keep whiter than white then. Love your optimism,

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Appear being the right word. Let's hope they keep whiter than white then. Love your optimism,

With the state the country is in, we need optimism.

Of course there may of been internal corruption within the party, its bound to happen. The very thing I am pleased with UKIP over is the way it has acted over these scandals (which will occur to any party) and they will occur more and more as the party grows because it is growing and is now the fourth biggest party in the United Kingdom, but they have acted quickly on every story such as Tom Wise and i'm happy with that.