Labour attacked after giving £170 million to the People's Republic of China

[Alkaz]

Simply it is a disgrace. Like Dan said in his original post, the NHS can not afford life saving drugs for people as there isn't enough money in the NHS or it would simply be to expensive yet see fit to donate to such a large economy which have more than enough money to sort their issues out in their country but choose not to and our gullible government think that if they donate to them it might help them out. What happened to the saying 'Charity begins at home', in Labours case it obviously doesn't.

[Catzsy]

Simply blaming Labour is scaremongering & electioneering. I am not saying it is right or wrong but all the G7 Countries give overseas aid and how much is agreed at the G7 Conferences - it is nothing new. It has happened for years under both labour and conservative governments. I notice this article doesn't mention that though. Not blaming the conservatives either - just pointing out selective journalism.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Simply blaming Labour is scaremongering & electioneering. I am not saying it is right or wrong but all the G7 Countries give overseas aid and how much is agreed at the G7 Conferences - it is nothing new. It has happened for years under both labour and conservative governments. I notice this article doesn't mention that though. Not blaming the conservatives either - just pointing out selective journalism.

Maybe its because the Labour government are in office now (and have been for the last 13 years) and our economy is sort of down the toilet while people on our NHS cannot afford to pay for life-extending drugs - when another government does this i'll be posting it as well, however we are in 2010 and not 1996 so it is the fault of the Labour government as they are in office and they have given this money to the Communist regime in China.

There is nothing 'scaremongering' about it - they have given £170 million to an immensely rich dictatorship no matter how you try to word it.

[Catzsy]

Maybe its because the Labour government are in office now (and have been for the last 13 years) and our economy is sort of down the toilet while people on our NHS cannot afford to pay for life-extending drugs - when another government does this i'll be posting it as well, however we are in 2010 and not 1996 so it is the fault of the Labour government.

No it isn't Dan - you cannot just renage on a G7 agreement where the amounts to be given are agreed. Lots of economies are down the toilet at the moment. Even during the recessions of the 80s and 90s it was paid. Not saying it is not something that should be looked at by the G7 - I mean should the UK be part of the G7 now, even? It maybe an immensely rich dictatorship but there must be a reason why all G7 countries agreed aid to it. I think you are grasping at straws here to defend a paper and it's selective journalism which doesn't reflect the whole story.

[jrh2002]

No it isn't Dan - you cannot just renage on a G7 agreement. Lots of economies are down the toilet at the moment. Even during the recessions of the 80s and 90s it was paid. Not saying it is not something that should be looked at by the G7 - I mean should the UK be part of the G7 now, even? I think you are grasping at straws here to defend a paper and it's selective journalism which doesn't reflect the whole story.

This is our country we should look after our own and stuff the other countries of the world. Put our citizens 1st and pay for promised cancer drugs? Lets leave the G7 as its just another sham like the EU. Be nice to see what other countries gave money to them as well as they will have selective donation policies no doubt.

I think this money was really a bill for the MP's dining out in china town.

[-:Undertaker:-]

No it isn't Dan - you cannot just renage on a G7 agreement. Lots of economies are down the toilet at the moment. Even during the recessions of the 80s and 90s it was paid. Not saying it is not something that should be looked at by the G7 - I mean should the UK be part of the G7 now, even? I think you are grasping at straws here to defend a paper and it's selective journalism which doesn't reflect the whole story.

Actually in the 1980s I believe Margaret Thatcher slashed foreign aid payments to fund with the restructuring of the economy. As for selective journalism, i'm sorry but its happening - we are giving £170 million to China no matter how you word it, and of course it'd be no use me quoting or using one of the Labour papers (Guardian or Daily Mirror) because they are not going to report on it are they so let us be realistic here. As for foreign aid, i'm sorry but giving £170 million to China is unacceptable and deals such as foreign aid can be cut just like any treaty can be modified or cut.

I read that in some provinces of China, they have hundreds of billions leftover and they dont actually know how to spend it. How can yourself and the Labour Party justify giving £170 million of taxpayer money to an immensely rich and cruel dictatorship while our own people (the taxpayers) are denied life-extending drugs because 'we have no money'.

A government doesnt have money, its taxpayer money and taxpayer money should be used on the taxpayers.

[Catzsy]

This is our country we should look after our own and stuff the other countries of the world. Put our citizens 1st and pay for promised cancer drugs? Lets leave the G7 as its just another sham like the EU. Be nice to see what other countries gave money to them as well as they will have selective donation policies no doubt.

I think this money was really a bill for the MP's dining out in china town.

I think you are right. I do not think that the UK should accept the fact that it is not a world power anymore either politically or econonically and leave the G7.

Actually in the 1980s I believe Margaret Thatcher slashed foreign aid payments to fund with the restructuring of the economy. As for selective journalism, i'm sorry but its happening - we are giving £170 million to China no matter how you word it, and of course it'd be no use me quoting or using one of the Labour papers (Guardian or Daily Mirror) because they are not going to report on it are they so let us be realistic here. As for foreign aid, i'm sorry but giving £170 million to China is unacceptable and deals such as foreign aid can be cut just like any treaty can be modified or cut.

I read that in some provinces of China, they have hundreds of billions leftover and they dont actually know how to spend it. How can yourself and the Labour Party justify giving £170 million of taxpayer money to an immensely rich and cruel dictatorship while our own people (the taxpayers) are denied life-extending drugs because 'we have no money'.

A government doesnt have money, its taxpayer money and taxpayer money should be used on the taxpayers.

I am not disagreeing with you as I said just pointing out the selective journalism.

As for the part in bold, Dan belief is no good - just serve up the cold hard facts.

[jrh2002]

China give $25 Billion in aid and yet we need to give them money

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/25/op...-edwalker.html

[-:Undertaker:-]

As for the part in bold, Dan belief is no good - just serve up the cold hard facts.

Well everything I have read (including books) on the subject state she did cut foreign aid, I tried a quick search on Google but nothing came up.

[jrh2002]

We have an undercover reporter on the forums who has found out the reason why we give the money

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...04#post6401104