Are sexist and racist jokes morally just? [ENDS 16/05/2010]

[Richie]

Erm NO
If it's just a JOKE it shouldn't be offending anyone...
So like unless it's making the person your telling the joke to laugh it's unacceptable...

I don't know any jokes that don't "offend" people

Sexist jokes - "Offend" woman/man
Racist jokes - "Offend" different races
Fat jokes - "Offend" fat people
gay jokes - "Offend" gay people
yo momma jokes - "Offend" ur ma

do you get my drift or do I have to list more?

[Richie]

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[Shar]

There we go then they are unjust
However I guess if it's between a group of friends i.e. with people you actually know properly then it might be acceptable to share sexist/racist "jokes"

I don't know any jokes that don't "offend" people

Sexist jokes - "Offend" woman/man
Racist jokes - "Offend" different races
Fat jokes - "Offend" fat people
gay jokes - "Offend" gay people
yo momma jokes - "Offend" ur ma

do you get my drift or do I have to list more?

[HotelUser]

EDIT : FORUM LAG

Sexist and racist jokes revolve around groups of people being treated as minorities, and with stupidly high amounts of stereotyping. I wouldn't say a gay joke because that would hurt someone's feelings either. But fat jokes and yo momma jokes? They're not related to a long history of discrimination and minority-ship and the victims of those jokes consist of small groups. They're hardly a fair comparison.

[Richie]

so why are ******* on habbo crying? sexism ended a long time ago, b4 they were born cos most of them r 12.

[Jordy]

Depends on the context, I personally wouldn't feel comfortable telling or hearing jokes from someone I didn't particularly know, they're jokes you'd share with friends or family really. I don't fall into any minorities really but if I did and someone walked up to me with a pretty offensive joke about the miniority I'd probably laugh but I'd definitely have a shaded view of them.

Racist & Sexist jokes are pretty much alright though, I certainly don't believe you have to hold racist views to understand racist jokes. It's all about knowing and understanding stereotypes really.

While I know current affairs jokes don't specifically fall under Sexist and Racist jokes I feel they can be a bit inappropriate soon after an event. Within hours of Michael Jackson dying, the Polish President dying, the Haiti Earthquake, Madeleine McCann being kidnapped, there were jokes going around immediately, fair enough if you want to joke about it but straight away?

[HotelUser]

so why are ******* on habbo crying? sexism ended a long time ago, b4 they were born cos most of them r 12.

Because it happened in the past and we can't change it. Would I go upto a jewish family and start laughing and making jokes about how their grandparents died in the holocaust? No. It's called morals and common sense.

[Richie]

Because it happened in the past and we can't change it. Would I go upto a jewish family and start laughing and making jokes about how their grandparents died in the holocaust? No. It's called morals and common sense.

Stop living in the past, men and woman are EQUAL, thats why its called a joke.................

[Meree.]

Oh jesus, I can't see this going well.

I understand how people think they're really just jokes and that's fine and dandy, but I just don't appreciate the content, because of what it did, and to some extend still does represent. I end up incoherently losing respect for most people on this forum who've participated in making sexist and certainly race related jokes. I guess I was just raised in a way such that the telling of these jokes was strictly forbidden and so when I see someone whom of which I would previously of regarded as someone with self pride and respect who is involved in sharing these jokes, I guess I just lose a lot of respect for these people, and, as some of you can testify I'm sure, have experienced me treating you with that newfound lack of respect as consequence. I sort of do this subconsciously, though because of my own principles and views on racism and sexism I don't intervene.

I agree with this in all honesty.

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[Mathew]

It really depends on what the joke is.
You need to realise that if it's a joke.. it's not aimed at anyone in particular and it's something to be taken with a pinch of salt. If you are gonna' throw off a Jew joke, chances are you have enough brain power to NOT tell it to a Jewish person - it's just wrong.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere. You can't say fat ginger momma jokes are allowed when they could "upset" someone just as much as a gay, sexist or racist one.

I think sexist jokes are perfectly fine and in today's educated world, it's a bit timid if you can't take one and laugh along. EVERYONE knows that women are now treated equally to men. It's common sense - so why not make a joke out of what was once an absurd way of equality?