[IRA] Irish Republican Army

[Catzsy]

Well thats your opinion, but my views are different. If the IRA was still around today I'd be behind them 100%.




Since the British invaded Ireland it never has never will, sure only in 2007 there were riots in the heart of dublin because of it... so hardly




It does to me at the end of the day the british killed irish familys ancestors. But what happened 50 years ago is okay because it was the British who were in the wrong, but 10 years ago its still okay to blame the IRA on 'terrorist attacks'

No what the British did 50 years ago was very wrong but peace has finally come to Ireland. It is not just the IRA - it was also protestant terrorists too. I cannot remember their name. If hatred of what happened 50/100 years ago or what happened 10 years ago cannot be put in the past I see no hope of a united ireland because it is hatred that devides it.

[Richie]

The argument that you are trying to put forward is the view of the Chinese (historical) which is that all land belongs to those who were originally there. The flaw is this argument is quite evident and that is that most of Africa would be returned to the British, Democratic Taiwan would be returned to Mainland China and islands such as the Falklands would belong to nobody as nobody has previously owned them fully.

That's fair enough, but I'm talking about the IRA and why the republicans had setup an army to retrieve its country.

The mindset you seem to have is that because you are an island, you must automatically own every part of that island even if it tramples over democracy and the will of the people - that is the wrong mindset and a backward one..

Perhaps it is, I stick by what I said though and in my opinion its not the wrong mindset

If England continues to have Islamic extremists threatening our way of life (freedom) then there will be an English equivalent of the IRA...

Thats perfectly fine though, its the British.

[Richie]

No the British diwhat d 50 years ago was very wrong but peace has finally come to Ireland. It is not just the IRA - it was also protestant terrorists too. I cannot remember their name. If hatred of what happened 50/100 years ago or what happened 10 years ago cannot be put in the past I see no hope of a united ireland because it is hatred that devides it.

I personally don't think it ever will.

[Catzsy]

That's fair enough, but I'm talking about the IRA and why the republicans had setup an army to retrieve its country.



Perhaps it is, I stick by what I said though and in my opinion its not the wrong mindset



Thats perfectly fine though, its the British.

Without doubt you are entitled to your opinion. I can see Ireland becoming united again within a decade if peace remains. Of course to Islamic terrorists you are infidels too.

[Misawa]

The IRA = terrorists. Anyone who sees different is out of their skull.

[Catzsy]

The IRA = terrorists. Anyone who sees different is out of their skull.

He is not denying they are/were.

[-:Undertaker:-]

That's fair enough, but I'm talking about the IRA and why the republicans had setup an army to retrieve its country.

Perhaps it is, I stick by what I said though and in my opinion its not the wrong mindset

Thats perfectly fine though, its the British.

But it is not entirely your island.

The land at the north of the island belongs to the United Kingdom and not the Republic of Ireland. The point on most Irish being killed by the British is totally untrue, infact most of them came to the United Kingdom in the days of the Empire anyway because if we are to be honest; there was sod all in Ireland at the time and it was Britain who provided the jobs, food and security and was the driving force of the modern world - being from Liverpool my ancestors on one side were also Irish who came here for those exact reasons when Liverpool was the centre of the British Empire.

If you take the view of the historical Chinese, which is that an entire island belongs to one nation/those first there own it then do you accept that the British have right to claim back or take back most of Africa, North America and parts of Asia? + the Spanish & Portugese can claim back most of South America - I presume you agree with that being the case(?) because thats exactly what you are arguing for right now and its exactly what the IRA stood for.

[Richie]

But it is not entirely your island.

The land at the north of the island belongs to the United Kingdom and not the Republic of Ireland. The point on most Irish being killed by the British is totally untrue, infact most of them came to the United Kingdom in the days of the Empire anyway because if we are to be honest; there was sod all in Ireland at the time and it was Britain who provided the jobs, food and security and was the driving force of the modern world - being from Liverpool my ancestors on one side were also Irish who came here for those exact reasons when Liverpool was the centre of the British Empire.

If you take the view of the historical Chinese, which is that an entire island belongs to one nation/those first there own it then do you accept that the British have right to claim back or take back most of Africa, North America and parts of Asia? + the Spanish & Portugese can claim back most of South America - I presume you agree with that being the case(?) because thats exactly what you are arguing for right now and its exactly what the IRA stood for.

Yeah I do and I agree with everything that I have highlighted.

[Swastika]

I don't think you've thought this whole IRA thing through and you've joined the bandwagon because your a proud Irishmen.
Good for you that your proud to be Irish and all that other stuff, but the IRA are idiots who went about things the wrong way killing innocent people by blowing up city centres.
No surrender.

[PaulMacC]

The people of Northern Ireland want to be British not Irish, end of.

Your wrong there Jordy. The majority of Catholics in Northern Ireland want to be Irish. Catholics currently have around 55% of the overall population so unless a referendum is called we'll never know.

I'm Catholic, I dont really care whether it is Northern Ireland or Ireland.