Microsoft office genuine advantage

[AgnesIO]

Office 2010 - £47 - http://www.software4students.co.uk/M...s-details.aspx
Office 2007 - £38 - http://www.software4students.co.uk/M...7-details.aspx

Cough

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And if EVERYONE took that attitude about the money thing, then there would be no microsoft. What a ******* stupid comment of yours that was.

[Recursion]

Thanks to whoever suggested the registry hack I'll have a look for that now.

@the person who said download it from TPB, i did and now it's flagged as not genuine

I didn't know you could get it for £30 as a student, but still, I don't see the point in buying 03 for £30 with its limited features compared to 07 which i could also get for £30, but I can't get 07 as it's only currently supported in half the school and saving as an 03 file defeats the object of having the advanced featured of 07 (if you catch my drift )

+, as if bill needs my money

Like 99% of the new stuff in Word 2007 will convert into the 03 format just fine.

[iJoe]

Ah well, removed the registry keys now

And that comment wasn't supposed to be taken seriously, but lets be honest, bill gates is minted, and not everyone will / can make that decision thanks to the monopoly currently owned by bill gates by having windows pre-installed on most pc's you buy in shops like comet / pc world. So not everyone can make the decision to go, ah well bill doesn't need the money, as when they buy the pc, whether they like it or not, they're buying windows (If they're buying from a shop such as pc world / comet etc)

Lighten up, it's not like I've came round to your house and personally robbed £50 off you.

[Apolva]

There's a free beta of office 2010 out now.

Works until October, I think.

http://www.microsoft.com/office/2010/en/default.aspx

[AgnesIO]

If some people pay for it everyone should.

[The Professor]

Your distinction doesn't make sense.

Regardless of whether we're on about tangible goods or intellectual property, it's still a loss of a potential sale. (On a definitional note, loss of potential is a valid loss in UK contract law.) You seem to have a total disregard for intellectual property law. Just because something is available in a digital format, it doesn't suddenly mean you have a God-given entitlement to it for free, leaving only the good samaritans to pay. You're skating on dangerous paths with that argument.

Where your argument falls down is it isn't a loss of a potential sale. The music industry and the film industry constantly come out with figures declaring how much money they've lost due to piracy and the sad thing is they've made them all up. Just because I'm pirating Adobe CS5 it doesn't mean I'd have necessarily bought it anyway. You can't count it as £1000 Adobe has lost because they would have never got that £1000 either way. It also isn't a loss of a potential sale in the same way a newspaper/jeans from tesco because that digital copy hasn't vanished from stock in the same way the jeans and newspaper has. The same number of people can still buy it.

That said, I'm not saying stealing is right at all. I don't think anyone here feels they have an entitlement to the things they're stealing; they won't be aggrieved if they can't find a pirated version of Office. We just recognise that in the digital age pirating rather than paying is a viable option and we have more questionable ethics than some.

[Chevy]

Buy it, be done with it.

Once you buy it atleast you know you don't have to worry about any legal issues, or anything else.

I bought my Microsoft Word, and gee, I am glad I did. I get a free upgrade to Office 2010 once it comes out anyways

[iJoe]

If some people pay for it everyone should.

Not everyone will though.

If I had a use for 07 I'd get it, my school are upgrading slowly, as they get the new pc's they're imaging 07 onto them, but until then I have no use for it so won't buy it

Whatever you're using digitally software, music, films, operating systems, you may pay £100's of pounds for, yet somewhere someone will be using it free.

Office, Photoshop and Illustrator are the only pirated software I have on my laptop and all my music is legal and covered by produb/ppl licenses and all my films are legal too, so not like I download stuff on mass, only stuff I need

Only torrented photoshop / illustrator as needed them for school and can't afford the high price tag.

[Barmi]

Where your argument falls down is it isn't a loss of a potential sale. The music industry and the film industry constantly come out with figures declaring how much money they've lost due to piracy and the sad thing is they've made them all up. Just because I'm pirating Adobe CS5 it doesn't mean I'd have necessarily bought it anyway. You can't count it as £1000 Adobe has lost because they would have never got that £1000 either way. It also isn't a loss of a potential sale in the same way a newspaper/jeans from tesco because that digital copy hasn't vanished from stock in the same way the jeans and newspaper has. The same number of people can still buy it.

That said, I'm not saying stealing is right at all. I don't think anyone here feels they have an entitlement to the things they're stealing; they won't be aggrieved if they can't find a pirated version of Office. We just recognise that in the digital age pirating rather than paying is a viable option and we have more questionable ethics than some.

And if you read what I continued with, you'll notice I said loss of potential is an irrelevant consideration for either side of the argument. Whether you steal a packet of sweets or whether you steal a digital licence for software, it's criminal liability. Loss is only a relevant consideration in certain civil litigation. Theft of tangible goods and theft of intellectual property both draw liability from a statutory offence. It is not a viable option.

The newspaper analogy is a very close one, because the economy of scale is such that each paper costs a negligible amount (hey, bandwidth costs too!), and vendors generally do not run out. But as I've said, you're clutching at straws ever since Trinity mentioned the idea of loss of potential... which does not apply. It is an irrelevant consideration in criminal law.

And yes, there are people in this thread with a ridiculous sense of entitlement. Check out the kid who said he spends his money on things he wants and needs, but downloads software for free because he 'needs' it. It just doesn't fly. OpenOffice.org is more than satisfactory for what most people need. If not, there are home or student licences. I don't buy the 'I need Adobe software' for school argument either. If you need it, school will either provide you with a licence, or they will have copies themselves. You're never expected to incur software costs at school.

As for the OP: you don't need to stick with 03. Your school should have the update to allow 03 to open later files. Besides, you can run a compatibility check in the newest versions of Office to check your document will be backwards compatible. Join the rest of the world on 07 or 10.

[Recursion]

Not everyone will though.

If I had a use for 07 I'd get it, my school are upgrading slowly, as they get the new pc's they're imaging 07 onto them, but until then I have no use for it so won't buy it

Whatever you're using digitally software, music, films, operating systems, you may pay £100's of pounds for, yet somewhere someone will be using it free.

Office, Photoshop and Illustrator are the only pirated software I have on my laptop and all my music is legal and covered by produb/ppl licenses and all my films are legal too, so not like I download stuff on mass, only stuff I need

Only torrented photoshop / illustrator as needed them for school and can't afford the high price tag.

Do you completely ignore my posts?

Office 2003, 2007 and 2010 are 99% backwards compatible, you WILL NOT see any noticable difference if you save as .doc in Word 2007 or 2010.

Also, either way, your I.T. Admins should have imaged them with the Office compatibility packs.