Israeli forces attack Aid convoy headed for Gaza. - 10 killed

[Jordy]

They may well regret it but they have not apologised nor will they co-operate with investigations or send someone to a war crime tribunal. Just a few months ago, Israeli assassins used British Passports to assassinate a Hamas leader in Dubai, this country really is not an alley.

[DaveTaylor]

Chairs hardly constitute as weapons.

Where is their any mentions of chairs?

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That just shows how easy it is to fake a passport though lol, I am sorry but it's true, the british government is corrupt as any other government at the moment and alley? without Israel their would be a lot of military weaponry we use today that wouldn't be around and is it just me or are you against the fact a Hamas leader was killed?

[BeanEgg]

Dave, they are sorry that they didn't find any weapons to be used against the Jews.

They blatantly know that there was only AID going to the Palestinians seeing as they have them on lock down.

If they believe there are weapons going through international waters, they should have told the UN. They don't have a right to police and prosecute people in international waters.

[Technologic]

Where is their any mentions of chairs?

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That just shows how easy it is to fake a passport though lol, I am sorry but it's true, the british government is corrupt as any other government at the moment and alley? without Israel their would be a lot of military weaponry we use today that wouldn't be around and is it just be or are you against the fact a Hamas leader was killed?

Watch the video in the article i posted. And he may have been a Hamas leader but it doesn't mean israel can just enter another country, assassinate him and deny the whole thing. Israel is a reckless state that should never have existed, they have no claim to that area other than what's written in a book of fairytales. They have no right to hold over 1.5 million people prisoner. They have no right to block essential aid from reaching these people.

[Jordy]

That just shows how easy it is to fake a passport though lol, I am sorry but it's true, the british government is corrupt as any other government at the moment and alley? without Israel their would be a lot of military weaponry we use today that wouldn't be around and is it just me or are you against the fact a Hamas leader was killed?

I am against his killing yes, you may well consider Hamas terrorists but they were beginning to make a lot of progress in Gaza until they were obliterated by the Israelis. Now there is no cement in Gaza, not enough food/water, no control of the air or sea, not enough of any resources and Israel doesn't even give them enough power so there's constant power cuts. It is a crisis in Gaza and most the world is turning a blind eye, there only way out of it is fighting Israel and who can blame them.

Just because it's easy to fake a passport does not mean it should be done to use the British as scapegoats and cover up an assassination.

[DaveTaylor]

I am against his killing yes, you may well consider Hamas terrorists but they were beginning to make a lot of progress in Gaza until they were obliterated by the Israelis. Now there is no cement in Gaza, not enough food/water, no control of the air or sea, not enough of any resources and Israel doesn't even give them enough power so there's constant power cuts. It is a crisis in Gaza and most the world is turning a blind eye, there only way out of it is fighting Israel and who can blame them.

Just because it's easy to fake a passport does not mean it should be done to use the British as scapegoats and cover up an assassination.

Amazing that, the media has got you, Hamas does good for the people of Gaza, dude are you ******* mad? Look past the BBC and the Sky news and actually read up on the subject, hamas imprison their own people, use the children as targets for Israel, treat the people as objects and not human beings, actually understand what is happening out there before you post ********. The fact is Israel have offered several times to give out convoys into Gaza, if you read the right news and listen to the right news you would know about this but Hamas, being who they are could you see them accepting things from Israel? **** no, would they hell, and then things like this happen, they use it to manipulate the British and other people as they already know everyone has a bias opinion on the situation and actually Israel didn't cover up any assassination they admitted this did the assassination, they just didn't admit they faked a passport as again if you read about the situation again they were told by the British and American government not to use fake ones and just use real ones as the assassinations had legit British citizenship. This happens all the time with the media and the way the news runs, they air something and when they realise it's wrong they remove the details and cover up their ass.

Watch the video in the article i posted. And he may have been a Hamas leader but it doesn't mean israel can just enter another country, assassinate him and deny the whole thing. Israel is a reckless state that should never have existed, they have no claim to that area other than what's written in a book of fairytales. They have no right to hold over 1.5 million people prisoner. They have no right to block essential aid from reaching these people.

I'm not even going to response too half this post as you sir are a ******.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Quite interesting how one sided this news article actually is, as to be honest Israel accepted they did wrong:


yet BBC don't mention that?

source: http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...ashes-1.293187

The BBC have had pressure piled on them time after time by the Israeli government which not long ago stopped a aid pledge being shown on the BBC to help save poor palestinians who were bombed using phospherous.

Where is their any mentions of chairs?

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That just shows how easy it is to fake a passport though lol, I am sorry but it's true, the british government is corrupt as any other government at the moment and alley? without Israel their would be a lot of military weaponry we use today that wouldn't be around and is it just me or are you against the fact a Hamas leader was killed?

Hamas are the elected government of Palestine along with Fatah and therefore have a right to rule. They are legitimate and elected which you cannot argue with. They are not terrorists, Mossad who are the Israeli secret service are the terrorists who abducted a man who exposed their illegal nuclear weapons programme to the British press a few decades ago. Palestine is occupied wrongly and the government of Palestine has a right to defend and take back its legitimate territory just as any British government would have done under a Nazi occupation - they have the moral highground no matter how you try to word it.

I am against the killing of a Hamas leader by Israel, damn right I am.

[DaveTaylor]

The BBC have had pressure piled on them time after time by the Israeli government which not long ago stopped a aid pledge being shown on the BBC to help save poor palestinians who were bombed using phospherous.

Hamas are the elected government of Palestine along with Fatah and therefore have a right to rule. They are legitimate and elected which you cannot argue with. They are not terrorists, Mossad who are the Israeli secret service are the terrorists who abducted a man who exposed their illegal nuclear weapons programme to the British press a few decades ago. Palestine is occupied wrongly and the government of Palestine has a right to defend and take back its legitimate territory just as any British government would have done under a Nazi occupation - they have the moral highground no matter how you try to word it.

I am against the killing of a Hamas leader by Israel, damn right I am.

Oh my god, you clearly have no idea about of of this at all, yes they are elected, so what, do you know about how that happened? did you know it was all set up and was rigged due to the fear of what hamas does to people in Gaza, the fact they torture families to help them rid of Israel, they take children away from families to do these things to win the people that they now have. Also Israel doesn't have illegal nuclear weapons it's been known for years they have a nuclear weapons way before this huge exposure thing, do you know why he was abducted? due to him trying to sell information which was given to them from the USA, there was a huge thing about it on discovery a couple of weeks ago. Hamas are getting weapons from Iran, been proved several times, it is clear what their intention is, they are terrorists.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Oh my god, you clearly have no idea about of of this at all, yes they are elected, so what, do you know about how that happened? did you know it was all set up and was rigged due to the fear of what hamas does to people in Gaza, the fact they torture families to help them rid of Israel, they take children away from families to do these things to win the people that they now have over the people. Also Israel doesn't have illegal nuclear weapons it's been known for years they have a nuclear weapons way before this huge exposure thing, do you know why he was abducted? due to him trying to sell information which was given to them from the USA, there was a huge thing about it on discovery a couple of weeks ago. Hamas are getting weapons from Iran, been proved several times, it is clear what their intention is, they are terrorists.

Hamas were elected to help them get rid of Israel you are totally correct and do you know why that is? - because Israel is an artifical state which has no moral right in the modern world to be where it is and in the method it took over. The situation is exactly the same as any German invasion of British soil - immoral and illegal. I am not disputing what Hamas has and hasnt done but thats expected in a war situation in an islamic nation.

Israel do have nuclear weapons and only a fool could think otherwise, the pictures are out there and Israel does not even deny the charge that it has nuclear weapons. The US Office of Technology Assessment has record Israel as a country which has a chemical and biological warfare program. Iran wants nuclear weapons because Israel has them and why should Iran be stopped afterall? - Israel has not signed any treaties and acts like a child in denying it has any nuclear weapons whilst also using its secret service Mossad like some despotic regime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_...ss_destruction

If the man was lying then why did the Israeli government and secret service feel the need to abduct him. I mean for godsakes they dont even deny they have the nuclear weapons (well they cant really can they seeing as the world now has pictures of Israels nuclear weapons programme. Here are some of the pictures below to anybody who wants to have a look;

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...na11.11.68.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...components.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nu-Article.jpg

To see the biased that exists against Palestine from the media you can see here where George Galloway shows how biased the coverage of this conflict is. It is Israel which is in the wrong, it is Israel who is the aggressor and it is Israel which had led to the instability in the Middle East. Israel abducts Palestinians, it uses fake British passports to carry out barbaric assainations, it abducts Lebanese people and it uses white phospherus bombs on Palestinian civillians - shame on Israel.



The white phosphorus attacks on Palestine (a sticky chemical substance which burns to the bone and which water cannot stop)

http://www.google.co.uk/images?um=1&...hite+&gs_rfai= (be aware, graphic images of awful skin burns)

[DaveTaylor]

Hamas were elected to help them get rid of Israel you are totally correct and do you know why that is? - because Israel is an artifical state which has no moral right in the modern world to be where it is and in the method it took over. The situation is exactly the same as any German invasion of British soil - immoral and illegal. I am not disputing what Hamas has and hasnt done but thats expected in a war situation in an islamic nation.

Israel do have nuclear weapons and only a fool could think otherwise, the pictures are out there and Israel does not even deny the charge that it has nuclear weapons. The US Office of Technology Assessment has record Israel as a country which has a chemical and biological warfare program. Iran wants nuclear weapons because Israel has them and why should Iran be stopped afterall? - Israel has not signed any treaties and acts like a child in denying it has any nuclear weapons whilst also using its secret service Mossad like some despotic regime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_...ss_destruction

If the man was lying then why did the Israeli government and secret service feel the need to abduct him. I mean for godsakes they dont even deny they have the nuclear weapons (well they cant really can they seeing as the world now has pictures of Israels nuclear weapons programme. Here are some of the pictures below to anybody who wants to have a look;

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...na11.11.68.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...components.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nu-Article.jpg

To see the biased that exists against Palestine from the media you can see here where George Galloway shows how biased the coverage of this conflict is. It is Israel which is in the wrong, it is Israel who is the aggressor and it is Israel which had led to the instability in the Middle East. Israel abducts Palestinians, it uses fake British passports to carry out barbaric assainations, it abducts Lebanese people and it uses white phospherus bombs on Palestinian civillians - shame on Israel.



The white phosphorus attacks on Palestine (a sticky chemical substance which burns to the bone and which water cannot stop)

http://www.google.co.uk/images?um=1&...hite+&gs_rfai= (be aware, graphic images of awful skin burns)

Did I say the man was lying no I did not, he had information that was secret between Israel and the USA, the fact they had to abduct him was due to the USA information Israel had was top secret and is still not known today, probably been destroyed. Israel didn't use fake passports, they used legit passports which the British government gave them, however they where covered in the media as fake, again, the media twisting things, the mossad members where and still are British citizens, also, the white phosphorus bombs, you clearly have no idea, November last year, a boat was seized my USA troops out in the sea, filled with white phosphorus bombs, these where heading for Hamas terroist groups, Israel where ordered by the USA to blow these up, due to the chemical deadliness of them, in the actions Israel hit them hard with several hundred rockets, which did indeed make Palestinian causalities.

On the nuclear front i've stood within 1-2 km's from the nuclear plant which is surrounded by army, you can go see it, and you can see it from google earth, simple as. The issue you and everyone else has on the forum who is trying to side with the media here is the fact you are just showing the evidence they gave out, nothing new which can counter what has been shown after the media which has proven the media wrong over and over.


You do realise we could be at this all day as the media has so much ******** about all these cases.