Korea Going To War?

[-:Undertaker:-]

The Peoples Republic of China is a very dangerous and aggressive state and people must remember that always. China does and has always believed it has the global right to be the world leader and looks down upon at states around Asia at whom they see as the tributary states to China because China 'belongs' at the centre of Asia and is superior to other nations - especially those with darker skin complexion. In the 1950s Korean War they intervened despite being totally behind in terms of power to the United States and they pushed the US back to the coast of the south almost. In recent years China has also shown little sign of backing down - in the 1997 handover of Hong Kong from the United Kingdom to the Peoples Republic of China they sent the PLA over the border before the time which had been agreed prior to the handover. To add ontop of that, from what I recall Prince Charles publically said how he felt intimidated at the handover when the Royal Ship Britannia was surrounded by PLA warships as it was leaving Hong Kong and the ex-colony.

This isn't to mention the various clashes the US navy and NATO has had with China over the past few years (and the Chinese call this period their 'peaceful rise') - do not be fooled, in the 90s they fired missiles over the Republic of China just before an election was held to send a warning/an attempt to influence the vote in favour of a pro-united China candidate. China (PROC) is the biggest threat to world peace and the Korean question is just one of a number of issues surrounding Asia and China which threatens World War III - unlike the Russians, they dont have it in them to back down.

They have no understanding or care for the consquences aslong as they get their way. It applies to most Asian states which could be seen in the behaviour of the Empire of Japan during World War II to captured soliders. Asia is the most racist and hateful continent of them all - the leadership of China would not give a damn for their people and their lives in achieving their goals. It is a very big threat to world peace - the west bangs on about the pitiful and nearly insignifigant issues of North Korean nuclear missiles and Iranian nuclear programmes whilst ignoring the real problem which is China.

[Black_Apalachi]

If it was the case you'd have a source. About a dozen sources in fact.

[Hiro]

China and N. Korea have a contract as do S. Korea and U.S.A - If anything it will be these four countries at war. Hopefully, if it does happen, we won't get dragged in.

[Technologic]

The Peoples Republic of China is a very dangerous and aggressive state and people must remember that always. China does and has always believed it has the global right to be the world leader and looks down upon at states around Asia at whom they see as the tributary states to China because China 'belongs' at the centre of Asia and is superior to other nations - especially those with darker skin complexion. In the 1950s Korean War they intervened despite being totally behind in terms of power to the United States and they pushed the US back to the coast of the south almost. In recent years China has also shown little sign of backing down - in the 1997 handover of Hong Kong from the United Kingdom to the Peoples Republic of China they sent the PLA over the border before the time which had been agreed prior to the handover. To add ontop of that, from what I recall Prince Charles publically said how he felt intimidated at the handover when the Royal Ship Britannia was surrounded by PLA warships as it was leaving Hong Kong and the ex-colony.

This isn't to mention the various clashes the US navy and NATO has had with China over the past few years (and the Chinese call this period their 'peaceful rise') - do not be fooled, in the 90s they fired missiles over the Republic of China just before an election was held to send a warning/an attempt to influence the vote in favour of a pro-united China candidate. China (PROC) is the biggest threat to world peace and the Korean question is just one of a number of issues surrounding Asia and China which threatens World War III - unlike the Russians, they dont have it in them to back down.

They have no understanding or care for the consquences aslong as they get their way. It applies to most Asian states which could be seen in the behaviour of the Empire of Japan during World War II to captured soliders. Asia is the most racist and hateful continent of them all - the leadership of China would not give a damn for their people and their lives in achieving their goals. It is a very big threat to world peace - the west bangs on about the pitiful and nearly insignifigant issues of North Korean nuclear missiles and Iranian nuclear programmes whilst ignoring the real problem which is China.

You say China are the problem yet you quite gladly use products manufactured there. The problem isn't exclusively China, it's the United States also. Both are trying to dictate global issues, they're just focusing on different areas. China is exploiting Africa just as the west did 100 years ago, all we are seeing is history repeating itself. It's just different players hold the cards this time.

[Jordy]

The Peoples Republic of China is a very dangerous and aggressive state and people must remember that always. China does and has always believed it has the global right to be the world leader and looks down upon at states around Asia at whom they see as the tributary states to China because China 'belongs' at the centre of Asia and is superior to other nations - especially those with darker skin complexion. In the 1950s Korean War they intervened despite being totally behind in terms of power to the United States and they pushed the US back to the coast of the south almost. In recent years China has also shown little sign of backing down - in the 1997 handover of Hong Kong from the United Kingdom to the Peoples Republic of China they sent the PLA over the border before the time which had been agreed prior to the handover. To add ontop of that, from what I recall Prince Charles publically said how he felt intimidated at the handover when the Royal Ship Britannia was surrounded by PLA warships as it was leaving Hong Kong and the ex-colony.

This isn't to mention the various clashes the US navy and NATO has had with China over the past few years (and the Chinese call this period their 'peaceful rise') - do not be fooled, in the 90s they fired missiles over the Republic of China just before an election was held to send a warning/an attempt to influence the vote in favour of a pro-united China candidate. China (PROC) is the biggest threat to world peace and the Korean question is just one of a number of issues surrounding Asia and China which threatens World War III - unlike the Russians, they dont have it in them to back down.

They have no understanding or care for the consquences aslong as they get their way. It applies to most Asian states which could be seen in the behaviour of the Empire of Japan during World War II to captured soliders. Asia is the most racist and hateful continent of them all - the leadership of China would not give a damn for their people and their lives in achieving their goals. It is a very big threat to world peace - the west bangs on about the pitiful and nearly insignifigant issues of North Korean nuclear missiles and Iranian nuclear programmes whilst ignoring the real problem which is China.

While China is no angel I am beginning to respect them as a super power. If the Chinese were to say the North Koreans were in the wrong to shoot the South Korean ship, North Korea would immediately feel betrayed and seeing as they have no other allies they'd have no choice but to go to war. Currently China can influence what North Korea does seeing as it is North Korea's lifeline, and as a result there is peace. It's within everyone's interests for the Chinese to turn a blind eye.

[-:Undertaker:-]

If it was the case you'd have a source. About a dozen sources in fact.

If thats in reference to me then check them out yourself as they are all over the internet and well documented. The race part and tributary system may need a bit of reading to understand though as its rooted deep in Chinese culture and was one of the only things which survived the purge of the imperial system.

You say China are the problem yet you quite gladly use products manufactured there. The problem isn't exclusively China, it's the United States also. Both are trying to dictate global issues, they're just focusing on different areas. China is exploiting Africa just as the west did 100 years ago, all we are seeing is history repeating itself. It's just different players hold the cards this time.

Who said i'm glad that we all have to buy from China?

In an ideal world we wouldnt buy anything from China and would source mainly from India and other states, possibly even ourselves but we all know that is now impossible with development. The United States isnt the problem because whilst its had bad foreign policy moves it does not have territorial disputes with nuclear neighbours, it does not support a despot regime on its doorstep, it is not a nation which has it in it to look down upon other nations like China historically has done and always has had acted in such a way (the tributary state system).

I have mentioned various facts within that section which I wrote and you simply cannot dismiss them in blind faith for China and the weak dislike many still feel for the United States today - despite problems with both; ask yourself who you trust more out of the two.

While China is no angel I am beginning to respect them as a super power. If the Chinese were to say the North Koreans were in the wrong to shoot the South Korean ship, North Korea would immediately feel betrayed and seeing as they have no other allies they'd have no choice but to go to war. Currently China can influence what North Korea does seeing as it is North Korea's lifeline, and as a result there is peace. It's within everyone's interests for the Chinese to turn a blind eye.

China is still 'investigating' the warship incident which shows that for now it simply refuses to weaken the North Korean regime - afterall a collapsing Korea would threaten its own leadership as millions would flood the borders via the North. I do not blame China because if I were a despotic regime then I would also try and keep the peace in such a way, at the expense (as usual) of the North Korean people. I am saying that China is not to be trusted and when it is more powerful (if that comes) you will see it flexing its muscles much more as it has already done against the United States.

Napoleon Bonaparte once said of China "Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world."

[dbgtz]

I personally think if WW3 happens at any time (which is likely) we will not be involved directly unless the USA drags us into it

[-:Undertaker:-]

I personally think if WW3 happens at any time (which is likely) we will not be involved directly unless the USA drags us into it

We legally have no other choice but to come to the aid of a fellow NATO members provided they are not the aggressor.

[Black_Apalachi]

No Dan, it was about the OP lol

[HotelUser]

I personally think if WW3 happens at any time (which is likely) we will not be involved directly unless the USA drags us into it

Kind of like you dragged us into the last world war