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[CHA!NGANG]

was this game live? where have i been lol

I can't remember if it was ok TV, I watched it on a stream. I think the Spain match yesterday was on ESPN. There are a lot of friendlies recently. France are playing today.

Holland's defenders aren't anything special either.

John Heitinga (Everton), Gregory Van Der Wiel, Vurnon Anita (Ajax), Khalid Boulahrouz (Stuttgart), Edson Braafheid (Bayern Munich), Ron Vlaar, Giovanni Van Bronckhurst (Feyenoord), Joris Mathijsen (Hamburg), Andre Ooijer (PSV), David Mendes Da Silva (AZ).

Yeah they're not great but the midfield/Attack is as good as any in the world. Defence wise:

Van der wiel - Heitinga - Mathijsen - Van Bronckhurst

Van der wiel will shine this WC, and his value will rocket. He's a very talented young RB. I know if Sagna leaves, he is lined up as the replacement.
Heitinga is ok.
Mathijsen is quite good.
Van Bronckhurst is past it.

Not the greatest defence, but not terrible. Also they play with 2 holding mids, Van Bommel and De Jong so they have enough defencive cover.

I can really see them going far as long as no-one gets injured.

- Van Bommel - De Jong -
Robben - Sneijder - Kuyt
--------- V. Persie ---------

Then they have Van der Vaart, Babel, Huntalaar, Afellay and some other talented players on the bench.

EDIT: Lagg caused double post, sorry.

Posts merged by Bolt660 (Forum Super Moderator): Double post caused by Forum Lag.

[Browney]

I think this Italy team is a bit too old now. Germany will be strong I think. I agree about the Netherlands, but with Robben and Sneijder, two of the most confident and inform players in the world atm, and RvP who will be extreamly fresh and has scored 3 goals in his last 2 games for Holland, I think they'll go far. Brazil again can't be written off. England have a chance don't get me wrong and they could win this summer, but I just don't think it will happen with this generation of players.

We're the oldest team in the competition. Helped in no small part thanks to David James. Think about it. James, Cole, Gerrard, Ferdinand, Terry, Lampard, Barry, Joe Cole and Shaun Wright-Phillips will all be atleast 32 by the next World Cup. Some of them will be 35, like Lampard. Also, this is the end of our golden generation. I honestly believe if we don't win it now, we never will. Have we ever had a better chance than to have Lampard, Gerrard, Cole, Ferdinand and Terry still playing? Coincidentally, they will all be atleast 33 by the next World Cup.

- Van Bommel - De Jong -
Robben - Sneijder - Kuyt
--------- V. Persie ---------

I'd prefer Kuyt in behind V. Persie. Kuyt's favourite position is second striker.

[CHA!NGANG]

We're the oldest squad in the competition. Our first team isn't the oldest. This isn't our golden generation I don't think. We just won the under-17 Euros I think, and we got to the final of the under-21 euros.

It's hard predict the players for the future but:

------------------------------ Hart (27) ------------------------------
Richards (25) - Smalling (24) - Shawcross (26) - Gibbs (24)
---------------------------- Rodwell (23) ----------------------------
-------------------- Milner (28) - Wilshire (22) --------------------
-------- Walcott (25) - Rooney (28) - A. Johnson (26) --------

I've probably missed a few players out but I think that in the future we'll have a very good team.

[Browney]

We're the oldest squad in the competition. Our first team isn't the oldest. This isn't our golden generation I don't think. We just won the under-17 Euros I think, and we got to the final of the under-21 euros.

It's hard predict the players for the future but:

------------------------------ Hart (27) ------------------------------
Richards (25) - Smalling (24) - Shawcross (26) - Gibbs (24)
---------------------------- Rodwell (23) ----------------------------
-------------------- Milner (28) - Wilshire (22) --------------------
-------- Walcott (25) - Rooney (28) - A. Johnson (26) --------

I've probably missed a few players out but I think that in the future we'll have a very good team.

OBSESSED WITH THAT FORMATION. :@

[JackBuddy]

I know John Bostock and Steven Caulker from Spurs are regulars in the England squad, supposed to have big futures ahead of them. Don't know about other teams though... I can see Smalling being another Fergie Turkey.

[Browney]

Ryan Noble, best U-19 striker in England.

[CHA!NGANG]

OBSESSED WITH THAT FORMATION. :@

What me? Or everyone lol?

And the ages I listed are in 4 years time btw for anyone that didn't notice lol.

[Geraint]

England U-17s just won the European Championships aswell. Although, if the level of U-21s was anything to go by, Wales would be beast seeing as we outplayed England in them games :@

[CHA!NGANG]

We're the oldest squad in the competition. Our first team isn't the oldest. This isn't our golden generation I don't think. We just won the under-17 Euros I think, and we got to the final of the under-21 euros.

It's hard predict the players for the future but:

------------------------------ Hart (27) ------------------------------
Richards (25) - Smalling (24) - Shawcross (26) - Gibbs (24)
---------------------------- Rodwell (23) ----------------------------
-------------------- Milner (28) - Wilshire (22) --------------------
-------- Walcott (25) - Rooney (28) - A. Johnson (26) --------

I've probably missed a few players out but I think that in the future we'll have a very good team.

England U-17s just won the European Championships aswell. Although, if the level of U-21s was anything to go by, Wales would be beast seeing as we outplayed England in them games :@

And Bale and Ramsey for Wales = (Y)

[JackBuddy]

France 0 China 1

Lloris
Evra
Abidal
Gallas
Sagna
Malouda
Toulalan
Gourcaff
Ribery
Anelka
Govou


lol.