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    Quote Originally Posted by alexxxxx View Post
    all religions are nutty though tbh. it's not like there hasn't been a war over christianity. or people killed by christians. the crusades anyone?
    Indeed you are correct, I would say every religion has had it's "bad" times, meaning cruel/immoral/brutal/medieval. Christianity has evolved/changed from what it was hundreds of years ago. Islam on the other hand has not... gays have no place in a Muslim world at all, women don't have rights, women are killed if they have sex before marriage, stoned to death if they are raped, I could go on. It hasn't caught up with the modern world whereas nearly all the other religions have.

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    I accept the fact that there are extremeists but most people here, except a few are tying to make out that all Muslims are extremists.

    There's a great difference between Modern Islam and the extremist Traditional Islam,]
    The modern version is seen as 'updated'.
    From what I have been told, they do not reject homosexuality and a lot of others.

    @ifuseekamy, this occurs in all religions so your argument is pointless. Muslims mostly condemn Extremists and are indeed ashamed; they still believe this is a religion of peace, and do not have such hatred views in the majority of Muslim countries.

    Of course Muslims would have Negative views on Christianity and Judaism etc. but so do we.

    This is just a vicious circle, where religion is the cause of most issues.

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    Eggy,

    I understand this and I am sure others do. Islamic extremists call the 'modern' Mulims non-Muslims because they don't follow everything to the point and are more integrated into British society then extremists. I have a Muslim friend and he's not a terrorist so of course I realise that.

    Regarding homosexuality, my 'modern' Muslim friend despises gays and Jews.

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    hasnt this been the way every war ever fought has worked? one side's hero is another side's terrorist. its not a right/wrong thing its a matter of perspective.

    honestly i think they have every right to protest, never should we let unpopular opinions be unheard. people expressing things like this is what keeps government in line. to them, the military is full of "murderers," just like their muslim extremists are "murderers" to us. while their opinions sound offensive, they remain opinions just like any other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedStratocas View Post
    hasnt this been the way every war ever fought has worked? one side's hero is another side's terrorist. its not a right/wrong thing its a matter of perspective.

    honestly i think they have every right to protest, never should we let unpopular opinions be unheard. people expressing things like this is what keeps government in line. to them, the military is full of "murderers," just like their muslim extremists are "murderers" to us. while their opinions sound offensive, they remain opinions just like any other.
    oh well that's fine then. :rolleyes: of course they can have their opinion, but to protest when the soldiers have just got back from Afghanistan is just awful. And if we were in a war which threatened the UK directly, these men and women in the Armed Forces would be fighting for everybody in the country - even these Islamic extremists, yet they will still slate them, even when they are saving their ungrateful backsides.

    It is just downright disrespectful and disgusts me.

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    youve got to remember that islam is a new(er) religion than christianity and perhaps it's just at the end of its religious war phase. A large proportion of muslims do sort of disregard their religion and its teachings in the west. trust me i know.

    eventually islam will water itself down to christianity now.
    goodbye.

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    I quote

    The majority of Muslims who are killed and injured by bombs and bullets are killed and injured by OTHER MUSLIMS, not by western troops. What do these people think would happen if NATO troops were not in Afghanistan? Do they think it would turn overnight into a peaceful nation where everybody loved and respected everybody else, where nobody was killed or injured, where everyone lived a decent, productive life, protected by just laws? Get real! I am sick of seeing Muslims depicting themselves as victims. Islam is at war with itself. Muslims must start being honest about who the real enemy is and address this issue.
    I cant be arsed to agrue why people who protest. They just deserved to be deported.

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    Dunno what to think. Maybe AL Qaeda doesn't exist, but the Taliban does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexxxxx View Post
    so what. theyre allowed their own opinion. youre not advocating we throw certain groups out because they have different views than the majority are you?

    and laughing at throwing sausages at them? that's as offensive, if not more as it is an attack, as the original outburst.
    Hang on a second, havent you in the past (forgive me if you havent) been one of those who have attacked me when I say we should abolish all anti-discrimination laws and allow total free speech - strange how it only works one way isnt it?

    I would personally allow total free speech - because thats what free speech is. However to prevent this sort of thing happening on the scale that it is now, I would have this country out of the European Union and it would regain control of its borders and have a proper immigration system in place. I can gurantee that most muslim nutcases do not work and are on benefits and that should not be happening, thus they then wouldnt be here to air those views.


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