Foreign languages in HxHD

[scottish]

Then alert a member of staff.

The thing is only a very few amount of people will understand, so it really isn't a big deal. Equally if someone is being rude in a different language you can still report them to the Habbo Moderators.

It is a big deal, just because people don't understand doesn't mean people can be rude in HxHD

Erm when was the last time you were on habbo? :S If you knew anything about habbo you'd know habbo mods do not ban unless its VERY severe. If you reported someone for being rude you will get a staff says notice saying use ignore.

I don't see why it should be allowed

It's a UK based fansite, everyone in the room speaks english, so allowing this is basically just asking people to be rude in other languages as i see no other reason behind it..

[Nixt]

It is a big deal, just because people don't understand doesn't mean people can be rude in HxHD

Erm when was the last time you were on habbo? :S If you knew anything about habbo you'd know habbo mods do not ban unless its VERY severe. If you reported someone for being rude you will get a staff says notice saying use ignore.

I don't see why it should be allowed

It's a UK based fansite, everyone in the room speaks english, so allowing this is basically just asking people to be rude in other languages as i see no other reason behind it..

I was on Habbo yesterday. I go on Habbo daily. I know that if you report people for being rude, and they continue to do so, they get dealt with as far as I have seen.

If you believe someone is being rude, then tell a member of staff and they will be dealt with in the way they would be if they were rude using the English language.

The use of languages will not be banned.

[scottish]

I was on Habbo yesterday. I go on Habbo daily. I know that if you report people for being rude, and they continue to do so, they get dealt with as far as I have seen.

If you believe someone is being rude, then tell a member of staff and they will be dealt with in the way they would be if they were rude using the English language.

The use of languages will not be banned.

I can assure you that is ********.

I've reported people for being rude, advertising c2c, etc and none of them have been banned, i get the 'Use ignore' or 'We highly advise you do not go on webcam for anyone' auto messages and the fat ***** do absolutely nothing. I don't really expect more from 12 year old moderators getting paid $1.50 an hour so

Explain why it shouldnt be banned, i see no reason behind it other than you WANT people to be rude in other languages

There is absolutely NO need to speak in any other languages in HxHD when EVERYONE speaks english or close to it (two norwegian people came in speaking partially english so clear they can do so)

[Nixt]

My reasoning is that there is also no reason to stop people using different languages. People from a different country may wish to utilise the room as a place to discuss something in their own language (this does, and I have seen it, happen). Equally, if people want to converse in a different language for whatever reason, I don't see any justified reason to stop them.

Stopping languages results in even worse behaviour, individuals who do not believe they should be banned (which is a significant majority over those who don't) will attempt to campaign against it by violating the rule in HxHD. This results in more people getting into trouble and getting banned that is strictly necessary.

Of course there is the problem that people use different languages to be rude, but in this event, I can only see two reasonable outcomes:
1) No one really understands, and therefore no one cares.
2) Someone does understand, then they can report this to the staff who can deal with it.

No real problem there as far as I can see.

I think the use of foreign languages is just a silly fad - a silly fad that will only be prolonged as long as individuals continue to complain about it.

[scottish]

My reasoning is that there is also no reason to stop people using different languages. People from a different country may wish to utilise the room as a place to discuss something in their own language (this does, and I have seen it, happen). Equally, if people want to converse in a different language for whatever reason, I don't see any justified reason to stop them.

Stopping languages results in even worse behaviour, individuals who do not believe they should be banned (which is a significant majority over those who don't) will attempt to campaign against it by violating the rule in HxHD. This results in more people getting into trouble and getting banned that is strictly necessary.

Of course there is the problem that people use different languages to be rude, but in this event, I can only see two reasonable outcomes:
1) No one really understands, and therefore no one cares.
2) Someone does understand, then they can report this to the staff who can deal with it.

No real problem there as far as I can see.

I think the use of foreign languages is just a silly fad - a silly fad that will only be prolonged as long as individuals continue to complain about it.

Becuase 99% of the time it's simply to break a rule, no-one ive ever seen in HxHD has been unable to speak english or very close to it, so the rule is just advertising being rude in foreign languages as staff cannot be ****** to translate everything, and translators often fail as i've proved to hoteluser as someone was being rude, hoteluser translated at it came out as crap... Habbox is a UK based fansite, not a Norweigan based fansite. If half of HxHD couldnt speak english i'd see a point but as EVERYONE can speak english the rule is simply ******ed. Also it doesn't encourage the purpose of the room, HELP DESK. If you go into a room full of people speaking in some weird foreign language you wouldn't stay, you'd go to the next help desk and actually get help rather than being isolated from the conversation as you don't speak that language.

Stopping languages results in even worse behaviour, individuals who do not believe they should be banned (which is a significant majority over those who don't) will attempt to campaign against it by violating the rule in HxHD.

Do you realise how stupid that statement is? lol...

Oh people don't like the rule about being rude, lets all be rude and get the rule removed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No you ban the people who abuse the rule and move the **** on... the help desk obviously has crap management if you remove rules because people abuse them lmfao......

At your list of 2 crap refer to the whole hoteluser lost in translation thing in first paragraph

[Nixt]

The time I have spent in HxHD recently, which is relatively often, has not indicated to me this is a massive problem. I have not received any massive complaints from David or any members of HxHD staff saying it has become a massive issue. It is generally quite easy to tell when someone is taking the piss, foreign language or not.

Regarding my reference to people campaigning against the rule by breaking it, I meant in the context of the fact that the rule is pointless or flawed. Which this is. It just makes no sense and creates an authoritarian atmosphere we want to avoid. Find me another room on Habbo that has banned foreign languages? It makes no sense to do it. It is a minor annoyance that will fade in time, when trolls find another way to annoy people.

Your opinion is duly noted but the rule will not be re-added. This decision was made on the basis of thorough discussion between myself, Roxy, Matt and David. It will remain our decision.

[scottish]

The time I have spent in HxHD recently, which is relatively often, has not indicated to me this is a massive problem. I have not received any massive complaints from David or any members of HxHD staff saying it has become a massive issue. It is generally quite easy to tell when someone is taking the piss, foreign language or not.

Regarding my reference to people campaigning against the rule by breaking it, I meant in the context of the fact that the rule is pointless or flawed. Which this is. It just makes no sense and creates an authoritarian atmosphere we want to avoid. Find me another room on Habbo that has banned foreign languages? It makes no sense to do it. It is a minor annoyance that will fade in time, when trolls find another way to annoy people.

Your opinion is duly noted but the rule will not be re-added. This decision was made on the basis of thorough discussion between myself, Roxy, Matt and David. It will remain our decision.

It's not a MASSIVE issue however there is an issue..

And no it's not, evidently...

It does make sense to do it, why the **** did hxf ban it for ages if it made no sense to do it? :S

It prevents people being rude so that staff can actually do their job (if their not afk)

also why was it added then removed

very professional lmao

[Nixt]

It's not a MASSIVE issue however there is an issue..

And no it's not, evidently...

It does make sense to do it, why the **** did hxf ban it for ages if it made no sense to do it? :S

It prevents people being rude so that staff can actually do their job (if their not afk)

also why was it added then removed

very professional lmao

The issue is minimal as you say, so there is no need to overreact to it by creating a whole rule regarding it which creates a flare up in rule breaking. The rule on foreign languages on the forum was repealed as it was considered pointless. Again, it was an over reaction to events at the time, that is why I removed it when I completely rewrote the forum rules a while back.

I apologise that you feel that the events were unprofessional. However, as humans it is only natural mistakes are made or reactions to certain situations as they happen are seen as unnecessary in retrospect. When the rule was introduced it was done so because it seemed like a pressing issue, however upon reflection it was removed. This is not unheard of and I don't think it really affects you massively and neither does it affect anyone's overall view of Habbox.

If you are unhappy with the behaviour of individuals in HxHD then please report it to a member of HxHD staff. If you are seriously unhappy with the repeal of this rule, I will say that there are plenty of other rooms on Habbo that you are free to spend your time in if you have such a considerable aversion to people using foreign languages - as this rule will not be reinstated.

[scottish]

The issue is minimal as you say, so there is no need to overreact to it by creating a whole rule regarding it which creates a flare up in rule breaking. The rule on foreign languages on the forum was repealed as it was considered pointless. Again, it was an over reaction to events at the time, that is why I removed it when I completely rewrote the forum rules a while back.

I apologise that you feel that the events were unprofessional. However, as humans it is only natural mistakes are made or reactions to certain situations as they happen are seen as unnecessary in retrospect. When the rule was introduced it was done so because it seemed like a pressing issue, however upon reflection it was removed. This is not unheard of and I don't think it really affects you massively and neither does it affect anyone's overall view of Habbox.

If you are unhappy with the behaviour of individuals in HxHD then please report it to a member of HxHD staff. If you are seriously unhappy with the repeal of this rule, I will say that there are plenty of other rooms on Habbo that you are free to spend your time in if you have such a considerable aversion to people using foreign languages - as this rule will not be reinstated.

Every issue should be addressed not just MASSIVe issues. In no way did i state it was minimal.

Now you're sounding like the idiots in the past ~ DONT LIKE IT DONT COME HERE?????????? That has to be one of the most downright idiotic statements made by management

And it doesn't matter i'll just continue to be rude as i'm sure plenty of others are.

Also if this rule isn't going to be implemented i suggest staff just completely ignore foreign languages, as i've been told off twice for saying 'lol says hoteluser and rnb in the same sentence to make them wonder what im saying' in norwegian and czech, apparently for being rude, which it in no way is rude, so either ban foreign languages, or do nothing about them as clearly the staff are failing miserably at any handling of this.

[Nixt]

Complaints about individual members of staff can be made either in the Complaints About Habbox Staff thread or by PMing myself or their relevant Manager. Evidence to back up your complaint is preferred.

If you believe a member of HxHD staff is warning you unnecessarily, this is the appropriate procedure to follow. Thanks .