Should some forms of incest be legalised? [ENDS 25/07/2010]

[JACKTARD]

This is really odd, why is this even being debated :S.

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[Hitman]

This is really odd, why is this even being debated :S.

It's being debated because some people have different opinions on the subject, or others like to just explain why it's seen as bad from a psychological point of view, that being we've grown up with it being wrong. If it happened everywhere openly then nobody would see it as wrong.

Anybody here done Psychology? The part where you're a kid and have feelings towards the mother/father, can't remember the name of it...

[Wig44.]

It's being debated because some people have different opinions on the subject, or others like to just explain why it's seen as bad from a psychological point of view, that being we've grown up with it being wrong. If it happened everywhere openly then nobody would see it as wrong.

Anybody here done Psychology? The part where you're a kid and have feelings towards the mother/father, can't remember the name of it...

You're talking about Sigmund Freud.. his work for the whole part has been debunked - I wish people would stop quoting him for shock factor.

Your morals, beliefs, values/judgement mean absolutely nothing. Your socialisation dictates them and had you been socialised to think incest was ok, you would think it was ok. Whoever said they were following basic morals - they don't mean anything at all. They were given to you, not formulated by you and had you grown up elsewhere they would be different.

That said I disagree with it because you won't be able to stop these people having children and these children will have deformities, muct said he thought it was ok because siblings already have the same genes, this is WHY the babies are born with deformities!

[Hitman]

You're talking about Sigmund Freud.. his work for the whole part has been debunked - I wish people would stop quoting him for shock factor.

Your morals, beliefs, values/judgement mean absolutely nothing. Your socialisation dictates them and had you been socialised to think incest was ok, you would think it was ok. Whoever said they were following basic morals - they don't mean anything at all. They were given to you, not formulated by you and had you grown up elsewhere they would be different.

That said I disagree with it because you won't be able to stop these people having children and these children will have deformities, muct said he thought it was ok because siblings already have the same genes, this is WHY the babies are born with deformities!

Wow really? I did psychology GCSE recently and his work makes up a big part of the theories and that... and a lot of his stuff makes sense. Is his the one with penis envy for the girls and all that?

You are correct on the morals and beliefs part, that was what I was trying to explain.

[Metric1]

if the baby comes out ******. NO.

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[StripedTiger]

Im not sure on this subject in all honesty. In one way im against it because of the abnormality in their children because of the fact that brothers and sisters often share the same genes. However, if we're this "freedom" country, surely we should be allowed to love who we wish?

[Stephen]

To me I only see incest as a relative who you have grown up with all your life. If you meet them when you were 18+ or whatever then you haven't got that since childhood family bond or whatever if anyone gets what I mean. But when you've grown up with them all your life it's just.. really weird to me and that's not including deformed babies and ****

[jackass]

Siblings & parents etc. no.

Cousins i'd say was acceptable under some circumstances. I wouldn't personally ever do it, but, yeah.

But in today's society especially, any relations with ANY family member is frowned upon at the least, so it's hardly appropriate nowadays anyway.

[Wig44.]

Wow really? I did psychology GCSE recently and his work makes up a big part of the theories and that... and a lot of his stuff makes sense. Is his the one with penis envy for the girls and all that?

You are correct on the morals and beliefs part, that was what I was trying to explain.

Yeah that is right, where the girl wants a penis to be able to have a heterosexual relationship with her mother, so she wants her fathers penisand develops sexual impulses towards him, then she blames the mother for her not having a penis, fully displaces her desires to the father and then moves her desires to men in general. Highly criticised, highly theoretical and generally disagreed upon. He was a catalyst in the psychology community though (in a good way). I have done Sociology at A-level which is how I know this!

It is funny how people can be so self righteous when everything they believe as basic moral values that any human being would have are not some form of instinct but actually just the products of their socialisation and anything could be acceptible.

[Hitman]

Yeah that is right, where the girl wants a penis to be able to have a heterosexual relationship with her mother, so she wants her fathers penisand develops sexual impulses towards him, then she blames the mother for her not having a penis, fully displaces her desires to the father and then moves her desires to men in general. Highly criticised, highly theoretical and generally disagreed upon. He was a catalyst in the psychology community though (in a good way). I have done Sociology at A-level which is how I know this!

It is funny how people can be so self righteous when everything they believe as basic moral values that any human being would have are not some form of instinct but actually just the products of their socialisation and anything could be acceptible.

Ah I see, yes I remember many classes of sitting there trying to take it all in... 2 year course in 1 year, not good.

Yeah everything is from society or whoever we grew up with, it's all learnt... anyway if the two people have the child then I strongly disagree, but if you think about it these people would not be harming anyone, should the fact that they are family matter? I'm just sayin', there are different ways to look at this.