No release for Peter Sutcliffe

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Not really, death shouldn't be used as a punishment - it's not being used as a punishment in euthanasia it's being used to ensure a better end for the person that's dying, saying that - should a convict wish to be executed for their crimes then they should be, however if death is going to occur unnaturally, then the only right way for it to happen is if the person dying wants to die.

So the death penalty isnt 'immoral' as many in death penalty threads claim, which is my argument. The idea that the use of death in punishment is 'wrong' can only be backed up if you disagree with euthanasia and abortion as you believe death is wrong when induced onto somebody. The child being aborted never choose or did anything to be killed for, the murderer on the other hand made his choice when he killed another human being. The person wanting euthanasia also made their choice.

It cannot be pick and choose for the argument when it comes to morals. If somebody argues against the death penalty on morals then fine I cannot challenge ones morals - so long as their morals make sense and are consistent. Often the morals argument is picked up upon by opponents of the death penalty as a way of forcing the discussion to a close when in reality, their views are very hypocritical indeed.

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should a convict wish to be executed for their crimes then they should be.

This is why I don't agree with the death penalty tbh. Ian Huntley has tried to kill himself how many times now? If he succeeds, his punishment is up. He shouldn't have the easy way out.

[=Lizzy]

I'm glad he didn't get let free, on the news this morning there was a woman who survived and she was still in shock after all these years.

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This is why I don't agree with the death penalty tbh. Ian Huntley has tried to kill himself how many times now? If he succeeds, his punishment is up. He shouldn't have the easy way out.

Ian Huntley is sitting (alive) in a nice warm prison cell, with access to a variety of activies in prison (such as gyms etc most of which normal people cannot even afford at times). He also has an Xbox in his prison cell along with reported access to Facebook and the internet. Holly and Jessica are reduced to skeletons in the ground now, and i'm sure they'd swap anyday with the comfortable lifestyle Huntley has now compared to their tragic little lives that were cut short by that monster.

Do not pretend he is suffering because it is a total insult to them two innocent little girls.

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Ian Huntley is sitting (alive) in a nice warm prison cell, with access to a variety of activies in prison (such as gyms etc most of which normal people cannot even afford at times). He also has an Xbox in his prison cell along with reported access to Facebook and the internet. Holly and Jessica are reduced to skeletons in the ground now, and i'm sure they'd swap anyday with the comfortable lifestyle Huntley has now, compared to their tragic little lives that were cut short by that monster.

Do not pretend he is suffering because it is a total insult to them innocent little girls.

Killing him isn't going to bring them back. If it could, I'd prepare the rope myself.

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Killing him isn't going to bring them back. If it could, I'd prepare the rope myself.

A minute ago you were against the death penalty.

I agree killing him will not bring it back, but neither will sitting him in a cell courtesy of the taxpayer and giving him an Xbox.

[Sharon]

I'm glad he didn't get let free - I saw it on the news, appauling

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A minute ago you were against the death penalty.

I agree killing him will not bring it back, but neither will sitting him in a cell courtesy of the taxpayer and giving him an Xbox.

I am against it because it doesn't bring them back. If it did, my opinion would change. Simple really.

[Trinity]

Ian Huntley is sitting (alive) in a nice warm prison cell, with access to a variety of activies in prison (such as gyms etc most of which normal people cannot even afford at times). He also has an Xbox in his prison cell along with reported access to Facebook and the internet. Holly and Jessica are reduced to skeletons in the ground now, and i'm sure they'd swap anyday with the comfortable lifestyle Huntley has now compared to their tragic little lives that were cut short by that monster.

Do not pretend he is suffering because it is a total insult to them two innocent little girls.

I love this post.
I live in a pretty poor area with a high crime rate. I've talked to a lot of young offenders and a large amount of them say they'd rather be in prison because it's a better life in there. Prison is supposed to be a punishment, not a reward for committing a crime.
I've heard people claim that it's still a punishment because they're separated from friends and family, but tbh most of their friends and family are criminals too so they'll all get to live together in a nice big house.

Personally, I'd bring back the death penalty for serious criminals like Peter Sutcliffe and Ian Huntley. The money saved could be used to actually help the people that deserve it. This country can't afford to waste money on scum right now. They're going to die in prison anyway, what difference does it make if we speed the process up a bit?

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I am against it because it doesn't bring them back. If it did, my opinion would change. Simple really.

Then by that logic you would be against any form of punishment/form of custody as it would not bring them back from the dead.