David Cameron ambushed on Indian TV over the Koh-i-noor diamond

[Swastika]

Oh yeah sorry, I remember getting robbed everyday in my 10 years in India ... NOT. Been robbed here in my 10 years though ... wonder which country is safer eh? Doesn't take a genius to work that out hmmmmm.

No ******* wonder India prefers USA to UK with attitude such as that.

Umm, im the one with an attitude problem, yet your swearing in your posts getting your back up at people and being rude?
Your obviously getting on your high horse because you must be Indian or something, i wasn't making out that all Indians are thieves or whatever, i was merely stating that the diamond is probably more safe in the Tower of London.
And if your so sure that India is safer than the UK, then why do you continue to live here and not India?

[-:Undertaker:-]

While I don't think the diamond should necessarily be given back, I think alot of what you just said here you need to rethink because honestly wow. How unsurprisingly egotistical of you to suggest that because we systematically took over lands which did not belong to us and modernised them they would not have done it without us.. that is shameful.

As for Africa, yes we seem to have done a world of good there, I mean Africa is practically thriving...

As for the bit in bold, I have no words.

What, so they just happened to develop just as we arrived? They had all been standing ontop of oil for thousands of years and never made any use of it, and even if they had - what could they have done with it? no means to get it out of the ground, nothing to use to power with it - just a useless thick black substance. The same goes for the diamonds in Africa, no use for them before we came, no value of them - had no clue/no methods of how to extract them from the ground.

Look at pictures of India, look at its bridges its towns - the same goes for Singapore/Pakistan/Burma and the rest of the colonial world - nothing there before the Europeans came and more so the British who often put investment back into the colonies as opposed to the Portugese, Spanish, French and the Belgians (prime example of this is British Hong Kong compared to Portugese Macao.

As for Africa yes it was thriving under the British Empire, look at it now and its going backwards. Apartheid was damn wrong agreed, but under both Apartheid and whilst part of the British Empire South Africa was thriving - Zimbabwe was known as the 'breadbasket of Africa' until their independence. India on the other hand has only just started mondernising and developing, the same goes for Pakistan under Musharraf.

They spout on about independence yet we are still paying for them to waste money on space programmes (India), nuclear weapons (India, Pakistan), tribal wars and conflicts (Africa) and crime (South Africa). The same goes for the idea that Nelson Mandela was some sort of hero for South Africa, both he and the ANC were nothing but terrorists who killed innocent people (not the regime) using a variety of sick and brutal methods.

Check out necklacing, I wouldn't wish that on Hitler himself.

He reads the mail, there's your answer.

Oh your always full of debate.

Oh yeah sorry, I remember getting robbed everyday in my 10 years in India ... NOT. Been robbed here in my 10 years though ... wonder which country is safer eh? Doesn't take a genius to work that out hmmmmm.

No ******* wonder India prefers USA to UK with attitude such as that.

1) No, it wouldn't be given back to that empire. It would be given back to the country.

The Mughal Empire was a different state, which was alongside many tribal areas. If you take the historical Chinese view that 'the successor takes all despite all other changes' then that is a perfect view to hold - however it is not one that most people take in history and international politics hence why the uproar and undefined status of Republic of China (Taiwan).

2) British protection from what? LOL. I thought we kicked you out of our country?

British protection from the rebellions and uproars that plagued the area that became the Raj just before the Raj was established. The same occured with the Great Qing (Chinese Empire) in which British/European and even American administrators were being seriously considered at the time. Both nations were collapsing, just India had the benefit of the British conquest to hold it together unlike China which eventually was taken by the communists along with tribal warlords.

3) Oh yeah, such a big diamond gets returned and it would obviously get lost :rolleyes: Obviously Indians are so dumb that they lose everything If only they had minds like the British eh? No wait, who is going to who to beg to be friends? Who easily survived the recession? MAN THATS A HARD QUESTION HMMMMMMMM.

Mis-taken the post darling. The problems that were in India before the Raj takeover meant that the likelyhood was that the diamonds and all other prized possesions would have been involved in conflict of interest - hence why the British took it and considering the British all of the railways, bridges and infastructure - i'd say the Raj got a pretty good deal for its diamonds and natural resources.

4) Oh yeah, I forgot, India's hasn't built any schools or hospital or universities since 1947 . Oh yeah, what did a recent entrepreneur say in a interview (sorry forgot his name)? That his son applied to Oxford ... got in. Applied to Harvard ... got in. Applied to the top Indian university ... got rejected. Who do top companies such as Golden Sachs, Co-op, Mckinsey based in UK hire? Indian students who have not even graduated yet. How do I know? Four of my cousins got hired by them before they even graduated. Oh yeah, but you wouldn't know as you are so damn narrow minded and think only you help us.

Where have I mentioned Indian development post-1947?

I am talking about prior to the Raj where Britain had to come in and build all of those things.

5) Obviously Britain didn't steal anything when they invaded India.

Britain was incharge of the Raj and the Raj was a colonial possession, if you class Britain having possession of the diamond as 'theft' then surely India has been the one milking the cow ever since the Raj and ever since the Raj ended - with the millions of aid this country gives every year to a country which spends billions on nuclear arsenal pointing at Pakistan and a space programme merely to rival China.

6) I don't really give a crap about the diamond, but your views are seriously messed up.

No, it's your views are messed up as you clearly do not have a concept of the world before the modern age.

That's the answer to your points.

Oh yeah, India obviously has not grown since 1947 :rolleyes:

AND PLEASE GIVE ROMANS LATIN BACK.

I am grateful UK built roads and stuff but man your post is just OTT.

This country is surrounded by water, yet you do not use hydropower. Switzerland uses like 50% or something (renewable energy). Means UK is obviously thick and needs to be invaded by Switzerland and taught how to use it.

Again, you are comparing colonialism to the modern day when there is no comparsion. Not only that, but you have taken it as though i'm saying India hasn't developed since 1947 - i'm not disputing that, what I am disputing is the fact that it took the British to come and build hospitals, roads, railways and all the rest of which did not exist beforehand.

[Alkaz]

Nothing, don't want to be apart of this now lol.

[-:Undertaker:-]

2) British protection from what? LOL. I thought we kicked you out of our country?

Oh and you [India, Pakistan, later Burma, Bangaladesh] didn't 'kick us out', we left on our own accord - the [British] economy was shattered by the war with the Third Reich and the Japanese Empire part of which its whole purpose was to make sure that the Raj, Burma and numerous other countries remained free from the chains of the cruel Japanese Empire - A war that the 'hero' Gandhi did not give his full support to. I can understand the hypocrisy of the choice that faced the Congress and Gandhi himself, but on the other hand common sense just tells me that i'd fight to hell and back not to come under Japanese rule - especially if I were coloured.

I do not believe he did it in malice, he was surely blinded though in his efforts during World War II.

[Stephen]

hxf is gonna have a 10 word limit on all posts.

You heard it here first

Edited by Cosmic (Forum Moderator) Please do not post pointlessly, thanks.

[Tintinnabulate]

Umm, im the one with an attitude problem, yet your swearing in your posts getting your back up at people and being rude?
Your obviously getting on your high horse because you must be Indian or something, i wasn't making out that all Indians are thieves or whatever, i was merely stating that the diamond is probably more safe in the Tower of London.
And if your so sure that India is safer than the UK, then why do you continue to live here and not India?

Oh yeah, India must be unsafe :rolleyes: Unless you have been to India, don't comment on the safety.

Just because India is safer, I don't have to return there :S :S What a stupid comment to make.
You do realise people can just pay money and sit on the queens car etc unsupervised? Great safety there isnt it :rolleyes: Plant a bomb, piss on it etc, and the staff were so corrupt they let people do it for money. Obviously you won't know as Britain is all perfect and safe. Every country has problems, and to say Britain is safer than India is laughable.

And Undertaker ... whatever you want to believe :rolleyes: and I was not talking about just taking that one diamond.

[MrPinkPanther]

I'm sorry because I didn't think I would say this about you but a lot of what you have said is genuinely racist.

[Rock]

Wasn't it used in the crown of the Shah of Persia at some time?

[Moh]

The Jewels have been kept their since the 14th century, not once has anybody succeeded in stealing them. The Jewel House is guarded by some of the highest ranking soldiers in the UK.

As for the UK been more safer than India, I think it's safe to say we are. In Europe, we spend the most money on defence - there's a few powerful countries in Europe too.

You're also forgetting that India doesn't even develop it's own figher jets. The UK pretty much develop all of our aircraft. India however use other countries, including the UKs. The UK also has a large list of powerful allies.

Sorry for going off topic

[Tintinnabulate]

The Jewels have been kept their since the 14th century, not once has anybody succeeded in stealing them. The Jewel House is guarded by some of the highest ranking soldiers in the UK.

As for the UK been more safer than India, I think it's safe to say we are. In Europe, we spend the most money on defence - there's a few powerful countries in Europe too.

You're also forgetting that India doesn't even develop it's own figher jets. The UK pretty much develop all of our aircraft. India however use other countries, including the UKs. The UK also has a large list of powerful allies.

Sorry for going off topic

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Internat...7361268316622/

And you do realise that UK buys from other countries too?

And I did not mean the army etc, I was talking about in general. In India they don't even use house alarms as its just not needed. I was just saying to Undertaker that India wont just misplace and lost such a huge diamond ...

Oh wait, whose government keeps losing confidential data? Damn, that's the UK.

Oh and Undertaker, you ignored my reply to "Indias should give english back to us", give us back our food then? Give romans back latin? Oh you ignored that.

oh and http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...ow/6234358.cms

But the presence shows how the world has moved on since Brits used to pass through Mumbai's gateway to India in the days of the Raj. It is now India's former rulers who are pleading to be taken seriously by one of the world's fastest growing economies.

BANGALORE: On his first visit to India as the British prime minister, Conservative leader David Cameron allayed fears of any curbs on the IT outsourcing by the country’s government departments, even as he asked Indian companies to create more jobs in the UK.