David Cameron ambushed on Indian TV over the Koh-i-noor diamond

[-:Undertaker:-]

No I meant on how they both reported this same story. And show me where the Indian government are asking for it back? You seem to make such a huge deal out of it when a REPORTER asked BECAUSE DAVID CAMERON WANTS TO FORM A SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP.

Is it so hard to get into your head? And maybe the Mail should say he has been ambushed in every news story then because as PM he gets asked a lot of unexpected questions everyday.

Oh Saurav do use your head, ask yourself why did they ask that question then? because it obviously matters to them therefore it is important and interesting also that the question was brought up.

"Mail this, Mail that", boring boring boring.

"OMGZZ I DISAGREE WITH UNDERTAKER SO I'LL SLANT THE MAIL!!!" - very boring. You don't like the Mail, I get it.

[Tintinnabulate]

Oh Saurav do use your head, ask yourself why did they ask that question then? because it obviously matters to them therefore it is important and interesting also that the question was brought up.

"Mail this, Mail that", boring boring boring.

"OMGZZ I DISAGREE WITH UNDERTAKER SO I'LL SLANT THE MAIL!!!" - very boring. You don't like the Mail, I get it.

Oh my God. Just because ONE PERSON asked it, it doesn't mean the whole country wants it. Are you seriously dumb?
OMG IF ONE PERSON HERE SAYS CAMERON SHOULD GET NAKED ON THE STREET, THE WHOLE COUNTRY MUST THINK IT. OMG OMG OMG. THEREFORE THE WHOLE COUNTRY SHOULD TURN GAY. OMG WE SHOULD BAN MARRIAGE AND ALL RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN OPPOSITE GENDERS. THEREFORE WE MUST ASK EVERYONE WHO IS MARRIED TO GET A DIVORCE.

That's how pathetic you and the Mail sound with this story.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Oh my God. Just because ONE PERSON asked it, it doesn't mean the whole country wants it. Are you seriously dumb?
OMG IF ONE PERSON HERE SAYS CAMERON SHOULD GET NAKED ON THE STREET, THE WHOLE COUNTRY MUST THINK IT. OMG OMG OMG. THEREFORE THE WHOLE COUNTRY SHOULD TURN GAY. OMG WE SHOULD BAN MARRIAGE AND ALL RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN OPPOSITE GENDERS. THEREFORE WE MUST ASK EVERYONE WHO IS MARRIED TO GET A DIVORCE.

That's how pathetic you and the Mail sound with this story.

No Saurav, what does sound pathetic is when you keep harping on about a newspaper reporting a story which has been reported by Sky News, BBC News, the Telegraph and other news outlets. The difference between your childish examples and the actual story is that we are talking about a diamond that is linked within two powerful countries shared history - an object that is worth a lot and is culturally signifigant. I was hoping to have a good discussion about colonialism as Tash has done and as others have done so, but as usual one has to come along and bring up either; UKIP or the Daily Mail.

Being from India/Pakistan yourself I thought you would of had something to offer to the discussion that is interesting or insightful, but you've proven me wrong by shooting down chance by chance to discuss colonialism as you did here (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...75#post6643275) where you appear to have got out of your own depth but still you wanted to challenge me so you brought up the paper just to have a rant against me for rantings sank.

And Undertaker ... whatever you want to believe :rolleyes:

Alright Saurav, whatever you want to believe - lets leave it at that.

[Tintinnabulate]

No Saurav, what does sound pathetic is when you keep harping on about a newspaper reporting a story which has been reported by Sky News, BBC News, the Telegraph and other news outlets. The difference between your childish examples and the actual story is that we are talking about a diamond that is linked within two powerful countries shared history - an object that is worth a lot and is culturally signifigant. I was hoping to have a good discussion about colonialism as Tash has done and as others have done so, but as usual one has to come along and bring up either; UKIP or the Daily Mail.

Being from India/Pakistan yourself I thought you would of had something to offer to the discussion that is interesting or insightful, but you've proven me wrong by shooting down chance by chance to discuss colonialism as you did here (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...75#post6643275) where you appear to have got out of your own depth but still you wanted to challenge me so you brought up the paper just to have a rant against me for rantings sank.



Alright Saurav, whatever you want to believe - lets leave it at that.

Not my fault is it that you turned the whole story into "Indians will lose it" and "they would be running around with spears still if it wasn't for us". Like I said, there is a clear difference in the way the Mail reported it and the way other newspapers reported it.

And you keep ignoring the fact that one person asked this question, you seem to think this one person represents over a billion people. Quite idiotic.

[Swastika]

Because I have lived in both countries? I have said you can get robbed on the street in India but your house is not as likely to get robbed as here ...
However, Undertaker seems to think they are idiots who will "lose" the diamond.

No, I am not having a go because someone mentioned something bad. I am having a go as half the comments are ludicrous. Ohhh Indians would be running around with spears if it wasn't for the UK. Ohhhh they are so dumb, they will lose such a big diamond. Ohh their government is so corrupt that they have no clue about policies.

Well i could say your house is more likely to get robbed but your less likely to get robbed in the street in the UK, its the same thing as your saying..?
I don't think myself nor Undertaker are hinting that the people of India will "lose" the diamond, i think we are both merely saying that the diamond would probably be better suited and kept alot more safer in the United Kingdom, because of being locked in the Tower of London.
My apologies if India have a safe-haven that matches the tower of london, but i highly doubt they do.
I agree some peoples opinions are quite strong and quite silly to say but everybody is entitled to an opinion and you should respect that weather to agree with it or not.
The fact is the UK did help out alot of the world and people are just saying that, but quite a rude way.

[Tintinnabulate]

Well i could say your house is more likely to get robbed but your less likely to get robbed in the street in the UK, its the same thing as your saying..?
I don't think myself nor Undertaker are hinting that the people of India will "lose" the diamond, i think we are both merely saying that the diamond would probably be better suited and kept alot more safer in the United Kingdom, because of being locked in the Tower of London.
My apologies if India have a safe-haven that matches the tower of london, but i highly doubt they do.
I agree some peoples opinions are quite strong and quite silly to say but everybody is entitled to an opinion and you should respect that weather to agree with it or not.
The fact is the UK did help out alot of the world and people are just saying that, but quite a rude way.

I know many people and have been robbed on the streets in UK so yeah, not safe.

[Swastika]

I know many people and have been robbed on the streets in UK so yeah, not safe.

Then India is not safe either, you could quite possibly have your house robbed over there.
You've got no facts at all to back up your claims, so untill to have, your points are invalid and irrelevant.

[Tintinnabulate]

Then India is not safe either, you could quite possibly have your house robbed over there.
You've got no facts at all to back up your claims, so untill to have, your points are invalid and irrelevant.

No, my comment was about UK: "I know many people and have been robbed on the streets in UK so yeah, not safe."

Err considering I have lived in India for 10 years, have a large family is evidence enough for me.

[GommeInc]

I'm somewhat confused by what we're a;; arguing about. I don't think we can say all say "the UK is safer" or "India is safer" when we do not know everyone in each country to provide such a statistic, large family or not

As far as I can tell, the main argument for returning it is because India is "safe", yet it does belong to the UK now as it was taken without much fuss. If it was returned, that would mean millions of items in the possession of UK museums would need to be removed, setting a weird and dangerous precedent across the globe - the US returning items, Russia, the Netherlands, France, India and so forth. Although this item was taken by the East India Company, it's had more purpose here than in India from what I can tell - seeing as India has changed with different groups, tribes and so forth while Britain has stayed relatively the same and made use of it in a crown - it seems to of been given to the UK by the East India Company as a gift to Queen Victoria, Empress of India, so I suppose in a way it's something to look at, other than a spoil of war. It's amazing it hasn't been lost like many war rewards :/

[jam666]

No, my comment was about UK: "I know many people and have been robbed on the streets in UK so yeah, not safe."

Err considering I have lived in India for 10 years, have a large family is evidence enough for me.

Oh please, this is really getting quite annyoing. You are experessing YOUR opinion and that does not mean everyones in your country. Opinions are NOT FACT and therefore have no basis in this argument since they have not been proven and thus cannot be argued about.

I could say the complete opposite and indeed i will and do believe that the UK IS SAFER then India. I believe this because we have a rather small amount of people who commit crime when compared to the rest of the population and are therefore less likely to steal or rob etc for food to feed their families. Whereas in India more people are likely to rob/ be robbed because of the higher population and the fact that a larger percentage of the indian society lives in poverty than the UK.