Is it right for countries to ban the Islamic burqa? [ENDS 01/08/2010]

[Tash.]

No they should not be banned. To me, if you are going to restrict someone's choice in clothing in this way under the premise that you have concerns over the security aspect then you have to ban hoodies. I can't see that happening somehow.

I understand the need for someone's face to be seen in situations such as in an airport and the likes but really in other situations I can't see how you could feel anymore intimidated by a burqa than a chav in a hoodie hiding their face for no other reason than they're up to no good. I for one would be more scared of the hooded youth.

I don't buy into this whole 'equality' argument either. If a woman chooses to wear a burqa because she genuinely believes that her religion requires it then so be it. As long as she cooperates in removing it from her face in situations where identification is needed then thats fine with me. If on the other hand she is being forced to wear it because of some oppression then thats a whole other issue. The wearing of burqas should not be banned just in case someones rights are infringed by it being allowed in this country, thats absurd.

Having said the above, I do believe a person should be allowed to request it to be removed if they have genuine concerns, not just because they don't like it. For example, if like I said earlier the persons identity needs to be ascertained for some reason.

[louder]

another thing, is everyone's relating britain.
that wasn't the question.
the question was, is it right for countries to ban the islamic burqa. not britain.

& the reason that some countries have banned it, is because we used it against them.
we put our soldiers in burqas, so that they can be completely undetected by the enemy.

so, yeah, i think it's right to ban it in that case.

[Apple]

Well unfortunately people who wear burqas are in a minority so if the majority do not like them for whatever reasons then it should be banned.

[RedStratocas]

Well unfortunately people who wear burqas are in a minority so if the majority do not like them for whatever reasons then it should be banned.

this is unfortunately very flawed logic. im sure the large majority of people hate the mullet haircut, but to ban it would be absurd. if we all had to follow the rules of majority, we'd be identical zombies with no rights to express ourselves.

And for another reason it intimidates me so much, you never know if there looking at you, or what there looking it. It could be used as an aid of stealing, you could just slide it under your Islamic Burga.

so i take it as you're for banning sunglasses as well, since you cant see what people are looking at with them either. you're probably also for banning baggy jeans, winter coats, and oversized shirts, since those can be used to steal too, right?

if they're moving here for what ever reason at all, then they should have to follow our rules, rather than trying to change them.

but you're completely distorting the situation. it's not them coming here and trying to change the rules, its YOU trying to change the rules because of them coming here. there has been no rule banning the burqa, they arent trying to "change the rules," they want to continue living their lives with the rules that are already in place. it's YOU whos trying to change the rules because of THEM, not the other way around. this argument that they're trying to change your laws is just absurd and makes no sense because it's obvious that's not how it is.

[Apple]

this is unfortunately very flawed logic. im sure the large majority of people hate the mullet haircut, but to ban it would be absurd. if we all had to follow the rules of majority, we'd be identical zombies with no rights to express ourselves.



so i take it as you're for banning sunglasses as well, since you cant see what people are looking at with them either. you're probably also for banning baggy jeans, winter coats, and oversized shirts, since those can be used to steal too, right?



but you're completely distorting the situation. it's not them coming here and trying to change the rules, its YOU trying to change the rules because of them coming here. there has been no rule banning the burqa, they arent trying to "change the rules," they want to continue living their lives with the rules that are already in place. it's YOU whos trying to change the rules because of THEM, not the other way around. this argument that they're trying to change your laws is just absurd and makes no sense because it's obvious that's not how it is.

What I was trying to say is because they are such a tiny minority and a massive percentage of britain thinks they should be banned for good reasons, who is the government going to listen to?

[Maze]

My stance: I think that the burqa IS oppressive to women. However, it should not be banned, as it does not threaten their well-being, and, in many cases, the women choose to wear it.

[louder]

[COLOR="DarkRed"]but you're completely distorting the situation. it's not them coming here and trying to change the rules, its YOU trying to change the rules because of them coming here. there has been no rule banning the burqa, they arent trying to "change the rules," they want to continue living their lives with the rules that are already in place. it's YOU whos trying to change the rules because of THEM, not the other way around. this argument that they're trying to change your laws is just absurd and makes no sense because it's obvious that's not how it is.

i never mentioned laws. and i was saying that the burqa should not be banned in britain.
if you re-read my post, i mention how corner shops & supermarkets have rules against hoodies & motorcycle helmets. we have to remove them before we enter. for the same reasons that we have to remove these, people wearing a burqa should have to remove it from their face.
so it's nothing to do with me distorting the situation. i'm saying they should follow the rules that we all have to. i'm not saying let's put laws in place.

[Apple]

i never mentioned laws. and i was saying that the burqa should not be banned in britain.
if you re-read my post, i mention how corner shops & supermarkets have rules against hoodies & motorcycle helmets. we have to remove them before we enter. for the same reasons that we have to remove these, people wearing a burqa should have to remove it from their face.
so it's nothing to do with me distorting the situation. i'm saying they should follow the rules that we all have to. i'm not saying let's put laws in place.

I completely agree with this. If they want to be treated equal then they should also follow equal rules.

Has anyone seen what a small child's reaction is to someone wearing a burqa, they can sometimes get pretty freaked out!

[Jamiie]

i never mentioned laws. and i was saying that the burqa should not be banned in britain.
if you re-read my post, i mention how corner shops & supermarkets have rules against hoodies & motorcycle helmets. we have to remove them before we enter. for the same reasons that we have to remove these, people wearing a burqa should have to remove it from their face.
so it's nothing to do with me distorting the situation. i'm saying they should follow the rules that we all have to. i'm not saying let's put laws in place.

I completely agree with this. If they want to be treated equal then they should also follow equal rules.

Has anyone seen what a small child's reaction is to someone wearing a burqa, they can sometimes get pretty freaked out!

i Agree with both of You its like i go into college with my hood up and you can clearly see my face
But yet someone comes in with a Burqa and you can't see nothing that could anyone i think
Atleast if its not banned make them follow what we have to do,
i Like to call the Burqa a letterbox because that is litterly all you can see which is nothing!

[RedStratocas]

What I was trying to say is because they are such a tiny minority and a massive percentage of britain thinks they should be banned for good reasons, who is the government going to listen to?

the government is going to do what they always have, doing what they think is logical, fair, and right. the way a democratic republic works is that we choose our leaders by majority rules, and assume responsibility to them to choose whats right. sometimes "the majority" is wrong on the issues, and the government can recognize that. if we had a full democracy where citizens voted on absolutely every issue, then we wouldn't have leaders representing us. democracy with representatives works to prevent things like burqa-banning from happening. if the government worked where the majority of the population always got their way, a representative democracy would be pointless.

i never mentioned laws. and i was saying that the burqa should not be banned in britain.
if you re-read my post, i mention how corner shops & supermarkets have rules against hoodies & motorcycle helmets. we have to remove them before we enter. for the same reasons that we have to remove these, people wearing a burqa should have to remove it from their face.
so it's nothing to do with me distorting the situation. i'm saying they should follow the rules that we all have to. i'm not saying let's put laws in place.

my b i agree with this i mustve read it too fast lol.